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To: saganite

No the rabid loser Bush haters who spent all their time doing nothing but screaming bile at the GOP, (i.e.YOU) because they were not getting only what they wanted the second they decided they wanted it did that. Bush is just the scapegoat for the complete lack of mental or emotional discipline amount the Conservative punditry and Talkers and their mindless drone followers.


5 posted on 06/09/2007 7:16:49 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: MNJohnnie

It’s not a question of only two positions, love Bush or hate him.

For instance, I fought the Miers nomination tooth and nail, not because I hated Bush but because I thought he was making a foolish mistake and that it would be better for him if he withdrew her before the Democrats gleefully confirmed her. I thought that if he admitted his mistake and moved on, then he could get back to doing good things.

Also the Iraq War. Just about all of us support it. Bush and Rummy had the good sense to go around the clintonoid hangers-on in the Pentagon and put Tommy Franks in charge, and in spite of Turkey’s sabotage the invasion was brilliantly conducted. But then the whole thing fell to pieces, largely because Bush had never bothered to clean out the State Department or the CIA or the other branches who were tasked with the occupation.

The CIA was totally incompetent, and the military had to build their own intelligence operation before they could even begin to capture Saddam and his leaders. The Rules of Engagement were stupid, the fight against the terrorists was half-hearted, the obvious next step of taking out Syria was neglected, giving the terrorists a base to work from.

There again, Bush had the right instincts, but his leadership was terrible, because he never took the trouble to put trusted and capable people in his various agencies. We had the lesson of LBJ’s half-hearted conduct of the Vietnam War and his unwillingness to do what needed to be done and let the generals do their job, yet Bush repeated LBJ’s mistakes.

Yes, Bush is a man of honor, but he seems not to understand how to run a country, hose out his enemies, or handle the press.

Now he is screwing up big time. Can he get back on track, as he did when he withdrew Miers and nominated Alito? Frankly, I don’t know. I was optimistic then, but much less optimistic now. He doesn’t seem to learn his lessons. This immigration fiasco is not just an insult to his base, it flies in the face of the rule of law, it violates the constitution, it is destructive of our country and its freedoms. If he keeps pushing it, as he seems determined to do, he will be remembered as a president who accomplished only a few good things—tax cuts, SCOTUS appointments, the defeat of the Taliban, and the defeat of Saddam.


18 posted on 06/09/2007 7:35:43 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MNJohnnie

LOL! You’re so wound up in Bush worship you can’t see the damage he’s doing.

Anyway, nice try at name calling and personal insult but I didn’t spot any facts in your post, just bile.


21 posted on 06/09/2007 7:37:29 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: MNJohnnie
You have a valid point. I don't see RATS being divided in their desire to elect more RATS. They don't care about anything--only that they're RATS.

We must fight this out in primaries and stay united in our zeal to elect Republicans.

Look at what's happening to Hagel right now. I'm sending his opponent money.

42 posted on 06/09/2007 8:23:04 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: MNJohnnie

“screaming bile “

Mindless metaphor alert!
Try not to get any on ya.


59 posted on 06/09/2007 8:35:39 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: MNJohnnie

You have no principles other than the Republicans are always good. Well, I don’t buy that bunk. You would vote for a communist, homosexual, drug addict if he/she was a Republican.


153 posted on 06/09/2007 2:21:36 PM PDT by rcofdayton
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To: MNJohnnie
Bush is just the scapegoat

Buzz. Wrong response.

We (most of us anyway) don't hate Bush. Why do you state this as either/or?

Bush has done some things agreeable. But by and large, history will not be too favorable to him, IMO. I criticize specific decisions he has made and specific policies he has undertaken. He cannot be a "scapegoat" for his own decisions. Not logically possible.

I will state categorically that his unrelenting push for amnesty and what amounts to open borders is beyond the pale and rivals some of Bill Clinton's actions in terms of potential damage to this country. I consider that fact & not simply opinion. The fact that he is doing this in direct opposition to the wishes of the majority of his party and the majority of the citizens of this country is further proof of [what I consider] dereliction of Constitutional duty.

210 posted on 06/10/2007 6:44:09 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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