[Abigail Adams]

Here’s what they said on the news tonight. Treptow says the cop cut him off, so he gave the cop a one-finger salute. Then the altercation escalated and they both pulled over to the side of the road. The cop got partially out of his car with his gun drawn, so Treptow shot him out of fear for his wife and kids who were in the car with him. The cop never IDed himself as such. Treptow then drove to a nearby convenience store and called 911. That’s Treptow’s version of the story, anyway.

[Northern Alliance]

Abigail, thanks. If that is really how it went down then I just lost a lot of sympathy for Treptow. Maybe both these loons should be disarmed. The LEO in particular should have known better and it doesn't sound like there was any good reason for him to get out of his car at all, nevermind putting someone at gunpoint.

But like other posters have said, when carrying you have to be aware that any incident can potentially escalate to the use of lethal force and apply an extra measure of self-control, particularly when driving. Treptow put his family at risk by giving the cop the finger and for what?

[beltfed308]

The only mistake I see with Mr. Treptow is his pulling over to the side of the road. With family in the car he should have kept going. On the other hand I wasn't there and from what little info there is in the story it sure looks like the instigator of all the actions that followed were those of the officer. Exiting a vehicle with a weapon is as big of a no-no anyone can do IMO.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

“Then the altercation escalated and they both pulled over to the side of the road. “

If Treptow’s story is true and they both voluntarily pulled over to the side of the road then both of these guys are wrong. They both knew that they had a weapon. What did they think they were going to do, get out and exchange pleasantries? Treptow has kids in the car and he drives around flipping other drivers the bird? Not good judgement by either. The only way that Treptow would be totally innocent is if the LEO pulled in front of him in such a way as to cut him off and not prevent leaving.

Both of these guys should have just driven on and nothing would have happened. Because both of them being wrong (the LEO being more culpable for escalating the situation) no one should be in jail. I suspect the LEO will be either suspended or penalized for his extremely poor judgement.

Treptow does the rest of us CCW license holders an extreme injustice by his actions. What is it that all of the gun nazis talk about? Our highways will become a shooting gallery.. dodge city... etc.. One irresponsible action by a CCW holder casts a light upon the rest of us, even though there may be hundreds of other cases where CCW holders are responsible citizens who prevent a crime. We know the liberal press will report on the one bad incident to the exclusion of the rest.

One last thing, Treptow says he was concerned for his wife and kids safety because the LEO pulled a gun and was pointing it at them. If he was so concerned about their safety, why pull over in the first place?

[Eaker]

so he gave the cop a one-finger salute.

In Texas one can lose their CHL for this alone.

[B4Ranch]

>>The cop got partially out of his car with his gun drawn,<<

Fire the cop!

[driftdiver]

“Then the altercation escalated and they both pulled over to the side of the road.”

I don’t have an issue with honking the horn and even the one finger salute on very rare occasions. However pulling over is only asking for trouble.