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To: Abd al-Rahiim
"In this sense, evolution most certainly can be a religion. I pursue its instruction in the science classroom everywhere with zeal and conscientious devotion, and I am against any and all attempts to legitimize intelligent design."

"Of course, if this is the definition you're using, then you'd be hard pressed to say that intelligent design is not also religion."

Thank you for admitting that evolution is just as much a religion as the naturalists claim is ID.

And that ID is just as 'scientific' as evolution.

23 posted on 06/08/2007 8:04:00 PM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: GourmetDan
You're welcome. I gave a definition from the AHD1 and found that it applies to both evolution and intelligent design. If that is the definition that editor-surveyor had in mind, then I have no qualms stating that evolution satisfies that definition for me.

And that ID is just as 'scientific' as evolution.

Now, I have not admitted anything like this. Oh, no.

Let's once again visit the American Heritage Dictionary. They define 'scientific' as an adjective meaning "Of, relating to, or employing the methodology of science"

The core of intelligent design ideology - our origin is best explained by divine intervention - cannot be observed, much less tested. As Kitzmiller v. Dover demonstrated, for intelligent design to be considered 'scientific,' the scientific method would have to be expanded to include the supernatural. There's a reason why no one has claimed James Randi's million dollars; supernatural phenomena disappears in the lab.

Whether you believe in intelligent design or not is none of my business. But, if it can't be observed or tested, it's not scientific.

1 Religion - A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

24 posted on 06/09/2007 5:59:47 AM PDT by Abd al-Rahiim
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