You brought up Crick as an appeal to authority. That is, you were using a view of Crick's that supported your side in the debate. However, that view was considered by Crick himself to be incorrect. What's really nice in this is that you yourself established Crick as an authority to be trusted. Thus, Crick's retraction and statement to the opposite of your point works against you.
You essentially debated my side. Thanks.
According that rule, nobody would ever be able to quote anyone.
According to that rule, nobody should ever quote only half the story. That is called taking something out of context, a dishonest debate device. First time's a mistake, second time after notification is on purpose. Dishonesty in the ID movement rears its ugly head again.
By the way, the link you sent was a two-pager of new twists in the ongoing wild speculation about how life could have started.
You brought him up as an authority, he refuted you. Live with it. Next time don't cite from the Creationist Handbook, and choose your sources more wisely.
That the odds of a functional cell forming at random has been revised up from 1/10^40,000 to 1/10^39,000?
Please show the methodology behind those numbers.
“You brought up Crick as an appeal to authority.”
I quoted Crick because he is recognized by *your* side as an authority. Are you saying that he is not an authority? If not, then why do you care how he did or did not revise what he had written in his book?
Oh, by the way, the link you provided that supposedly showed Crick retracting his quote did no such thing. He said that he had “rethought” certain things, but it did *not* say that he retracted the passage that I quoted.
Nice try though. Let me know if you ever find evidence that he retracted it.
As for the probability computations, get Hoyle’s book The Intelligent Universe — and try to educate yourself on the basics of the probabilities involved in the origin of life by purely naturalistic mechanisms.
You can also check out chapter 11, The Enigma of Life’s Origin, in Michael Denton’s book Evolution: A Theory in Crisis. Sorry, but I don’t have time to tutor you now.
“An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would have had to have been satisfied to get it going.” —Francis Crick, co-discoverer of DNA and Nobel Laureate
Folks, this is straight out of the book Life Itself (1982), by Francis Crick.
Our evolutionist friend doesn’t like it, so he claimed that Crick has retracted it, but of course he provided no evidence of such a retraction. He provided a link which supposedly contained the retraction, but it didn’t.
Yet he has the audacity to call me “dishonest” for simply quoting Crick out of his own book! This is the kind of crap we must put up with here.
This quote made me think of you:
“When you’re arguing with a fool, make sure he isn’t doing the same thing.”