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To: savedbygrace
After 119 responses it's impossible to respond again to about half of them, so I'd like to make a little list:

a; President Bush has done good sometimes and bad sometimes.
b; Blind support in all things, like blind opposition, ignores both reality and political responsibility.
c; The vast majority of folks on FR support him in most of his actions in the WOT - even the mistakes when they are honest mistakes.
d; The vast majority of folks on FR absolutely do NOT support his position on illegal immigration - particularly as it centers on mexico.
e; (I believe) the vast majority here on FR do NOT hate or even dislike anyone for being of mexican descent, however,
f; Most on FR strongly oppose the import of an alien culture - in mass - as well as granting of special interest (minority) status to huge numbers of non-Americans who introduced themselves by breaking the law. (!)
g: Illegal immigration today is in absolutely NO manner similar to uncontrolled immigration in the 19th century and in NO manner similar to the waves of specific nationalities who have come in the past.
h; Even past immigration waves have brought undesirable elements, which the US still attempts to reject - The IRA and it's east coast funding, several nationality specific brands of "Mafia", new or recurrence of old diseases, ..mexican waves DO threaten even higher numbers of these elements.
i; mexican illegals are NOT refugees.
j; GWB does not even need "globalization" or the idea of a continental entity - he owes mexican interests on both sides of the border for some part of his political success in a state that is only today reconsidering where its southern border actually lies.j; The mexican government has historically been unable to manage its own affairs and has never stopped using the USA as its alibi for failure.
k/1; mexican schools teach anti-Americanism, "Gringos stole our territory", not entirely unlike islamlic madrassas teach anti-Americanism.
k/2; Many of our own universities and public schools teach that 'Reconquesta' is a valid demand & "Aztlan" a real place.
l; The recently withdrawn amnesty bill WILL come back at us. It will come back as soon as the coven supporting it adds sufficient complexity, empty assurances, vague mandates, and requirements that will never be imposed, to allow another press for the same old thing.
m, (I'm losing track); We have NO guarantee that a second attempt will fail, none, nada, zero, zilch...
n; The president and his allies (both sides) will spend what is left of their honor trying to buy or coerce those opposing onto their side - I suspect that, without serious continued input from the grass roots, they will find takers.
o; This issue DOES detract from both support for, and execution of, the WOT - it's not fair to our troops and it's not a rational policy.
p; There is ample evidence that terrorists ARE using the mexican frontier as a means of entering the USA - to argue otherwise is not credible.

So, we are back to some here support the president sometimes and don't support the president other times.

In this instance, maybe we need to start a new campaign to make him aware of the risk he faces in losing both his pay back and our war on terrorism.

ADDENDA:
q; mexico never settled or controlled the territories north of it's present border - it was given to them and they sold it after less than a generation.

PS: Fox News just announced that Paris Hilton will be made to actually attend her courtroom hearing today - there's some good news, trivial as it may be, after all.

142 posted on 06/08/2007 9:04:26 AM PDT by norton
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To: norton

Well sir, I believe that just about sums it up.


144 posted on 06/08/2007 9:09:19 AM PDT by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: norton

Good summary.


149 posted on 06/08/2007 9:17:46 AM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: norton

A pretty good list.


150 posted on 06/08/2007 9:19:50 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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