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Girl takes down elephant with 83-lb bow
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Posted on 06/08/2007 4:17:56 AM PDT by rickdylan

Girl kills elephant with 83-lb bow

One of the more unusual stories I've seen on the archery forums recently...



TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; archery; banglist; elephant; hunting
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To: Oberon

I think it’s pretty bizarre to hunt anything, unless it includes harvesting the meat, or protection, or some other substantial reason.

Otherwise, it’s killing animals just for pleasure.

Pretty kinky.


181 posted on 06/10/2007 1:19:42 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: unspun
Otherwise, it’s killing animals just for pleasure.

And...?

182 posted on 06/10/2007 3:50:19 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: unspun
Was this elephant killed for food?

No meat is wasted in Africa.

183 posted on 06/10/2007 3:51:20 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Abundy

Just out of curiosity, wouldn’t allowing the body to sit out all night in the heat, undressed, cause the meat to be tainted? My husband hunts deer (bow, shotgun and muzzleloader) and he once hit a deer but it wasn’t a killing shot. He tracked it slowly (not chasing) for hours because he said if he didn’t, he’d never find it the next day, or if it laid out all night, the meat would be ruined because it was an extremely warm Sept. that year.

(He did find it and field dressed it but it was Labor Day and no butcher shops open - and we didn’t have the equipment necessary to do it ourselves. Our neighbor owns a general store and offered to let us hang it up in his huge walk in cooler out back...but he neglected to leave a note for the lady who opened the store for him in the AM!)


184 posted on 06/10/2007 4:03:16 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: sagar

All hunters *I* know do it for food. We’ve always eaten every bit of venison H has brought home. My FIL, BIL, everyone I know eats it. Not a lot of bragging among any of them.

Do you eat meat at all? I guess it’s ok if you go buy your meat on a little styrofoam tray wrapped up in plastic wrap. Do you think it’s grown like that? I can tell you, the deer H has shot suffered a lot less than the cows and pigs that are now on display in the meat aisle.


185 posted on 06/10/2007 4:11:01 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: sagar

I am assuming with your post you are a vegetarian and don’t eat meat?

Don’t wear leather or fur?

Drive cars with leather seats?

And certainly you don’t wear silk, made from an animal (insect)?

You obviously have no knowledge about hunting, except from the propaganda put out by animal rights folks. You are in for an education on this thread.


186 posted on 06/10/2007 4:11:20 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: sagar
Seriously? You think that shooting an animal (the *same* animal) in an enclosed area, ie a game farm, is ok? Trophy hunting, game-farm hunting is ok???? <>
187 posted on 06/10/2007 4:14:46 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: rickdylan

I like elephants and animals more than most of the people I meet.


188 posted on 06/10/2007 4:25:15 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Lazamataz

Haha. Some people just dont get your humor. I love it though.


189 posted on 06/10/2007 4:30:27 PM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: RandallFlagg
Many thanks for the post. It put a little perspective on the thing.

When the arrow went in, the elephant jumped, turned and looked at us and ran off. He only ran about 50 yards before he stopped. He stayed there moaning until we left. Dudley, the PH, decided to leave because it was getting dark and the other elephants were agitated. The next day we found the elephant about 500 yards away. The tracking was a bit difficult because he kept going around in circles. There was blood every where and on both sides of the trail. He bled out in several different places. I don't know how long it took for him to expire since we left.

I hope I don't risk ejection from the Hunters Guild to disapprove here, but there it is. The young woman is a redoubtable archer but she violated the cardinal rule of humane hunting - she didn't use a weapon sufficient to the need. Effective, yes, eventually. Karamojo Bell used to hunt them with a .270. So what? The upshot of this is that she abandoned a wounded animal and left it to an indeterminate but quite obviously extended period of suffering.

In my opinion, and it is mine alone to answer for it, that is not the action of an ethical hunter. My congratulations to the young lady for pulling off an impressive stunt, but that's all it was, a stunt. Others' opinions may differ.

190 posted on 06/10/2007 4:58:30 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Oberon
Otherwise, it’s killing animals just for pleasure.

And...?

And that is does violence to and dishonors God's created order for living beings. Animals in their right minds, don't even tend to kill other animals, unless there is a purpose, for food, territory, relationship, etc.

Killing animals for the fun of it as children, however, is often how serial killers get their practical start.

191 posted on 06/10/2007 6:57:13 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Oberon
Otherwise, it’s killing animals just for pleasure.

And...?

And that is does violence to and dishonors God's created order for living beings. Animals in their right minds, don't even tend to kill other animals, unless there is a purpose, for food, territory, relationship, etc.

Killing animals for the fun of it as children, however, is often how serial killers get their practical start.

192 posted on 06/10/2007 6:57:15 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: unspun
Trophy hunting has a long and honorable tradition, the meat is not wasted, the elephants are being managed properly and, in fact, it's pretty much ONLY in areas in which they are hunted that you even have them any more since the economics of allowing their survival are simply not there otherwise.

See what you think of this....

193 posted on 06/10/2007 7:07:45 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: unspun; Diana in Wisconsin; Grammy; george76; billhilly; proud_yank; SJackson; Beagle8U

Do you have some statistics you could post on the number of children that hunt becoming serial killers?

I’d like to see them. There’s millions of children growing up in homes with guns and hunting, and at one time every household had a hunter (grandpa, uncle, father) that hunted to provide food.

My Mom was raised during the Great Depression, and they had to shoot squirrels, and any meat they could to survive. There was 11 kids in her family, and none became serial killers.

I’m looking forward to the stats you’ll provide.


194 posted on 06/10/2007 7:12:00 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: Shimmer128
I’m surprised a girl can even pull an 80+ lb bow

The bow in the pic is a compound. It has a system of pulleys that aid in the pull. While the initial little bit is at 85#, it quickly ramps off to a much more managable "full draw" weight.

195 posted on 06/10/2007 7:28:07 PM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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To: unspun

Come to think of it, if you really want to see something perverted, get on google and see what you can find out about the way pigs and chickens are being raised today. Any game animal has had a good and normal life before it ever gets killed and, in particular, trophy animals have long since passed their genes on to enough of the next generation.


196 posted on 06/10/2007 7:29:16 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: LexBaird

She still has to pull the bow past the 80 lbs. Most men could not pull an 80 lb. bow, compound or otherwise.


197 posted on 06/10/2007 7:30:30 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: Lazamataz
What is it when you have sex with the severed head? I need a term I can tell my psychologist.

Necroencephelophillia? It either means that, or you like to get it on with Dead Head groupies.

198 posted on 06/10/2007 7:33:23 PM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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To: LexBaird

I know that. I’m a JOAD coach. I’m just not used to girls pulling that many lbs, although she’s not an especially young girl.


199 posted on 06/10/2007 7:36:38 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (I can withstand everything except temptation........Oscar Wilde)
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To: girlangler; unspun; Myrddin; JB in Whitefish; B4Ranch; GladesGuru

“sport” killed by wolves and left to rot....

http://www.mtmultipleuse.org/ENDANGERED/wolf_pics.htm#humans


200 posted on 06/10/2007 7:39:26 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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