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Failure Was an Option! Good thing too. The "grand bargain" collapses.
Slate ^ | June 7, 2007 | Mickey Kaus

Posted on 06/07/2007 10:15:43 PM PDT by gpapa

Cloture fails, 50-45. Immigration bill pulled off floor by Sen. Reid. ... It can't really be about how many amendments Republicans get to offer. ... Alternative: Maybe it's about not being able to take the worst ideas from the left (instant legalization of illegals) and the right (second class guest workers), put them together, call it centrism, bask in fawning MSM coverage and ram it down the throat of voters who don't want it!

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; guestworkers; illegaliens; illegals; immigration
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1 posted on 06/07/2007 10:15:46 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: gpapa

Ding Dong! the Witch is dead


2 posted on 06/07/2007 10:20:12 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS

Not by a long shot. While the president holds the power of executive order, he can do harm. He can declare a national emergency over immigration and with his newly penned powers— Congress won’t lift a finger to stop him, he’ll just declare them all citizens to prevent the riots McCain claims will happen.

We may never be safe from the harm the last three adminstrations have heaped upon this country.


3 posted on 06/07/2007 10:23:59 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: YHAOS
"Ding Dong! the Witch is dead."

Not quite yet. Keep the pressure up for a little longer.

4 posted on 06/07/2007 10:28:38 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

> Congress won’t lift a finger to stop him,<

So true, so sad.


5 posted on 06/07/2007 10:34:56 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: gpapa
not being able to take the worst ideas from...the right (second class guest workers)

Correction: Second-class guest workers are NOT an idea from the right, but from the RINO brain trust. It's an idea that is clearly against true Conservative principles. Second-class status is morally wrong, and socially disruptive. That's partly why Conservatives were so strongly against the Mexican Invasion Surrender Bill.

6 posted on 06/07/2007 10:35:19 PM PDT by sourcery (Democrat: n. 1. Quiche-eating surrender donkey.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
While the president holds the power of executive order, he can do harm.

Dubya is not going to legalize all the invaders with an executive order.

7 posted on 06/07/2007 10:43:03 PM PDT by Mogollon
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To: hedgetrimmer

Not a chance....

If Bush were to pull such a stunt and the republicans in congress did nothing, they can kiss the republican party good bye.


8 posted on 06/07/2007 10:44:08 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: YHAOS

It is not dead yet. McConnell and Reid are already plotting another substitute amendment for the underlying bill.


9 posted on 06/07/2007 11:03:14 PM PDT by gpapa
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I hope that’s not true. This bill will almost certainly destroy the Republican party. If it had passed I was going to call McConnel again just to say that his job is toast, enjoy it while you can. The Republican Party is not immortal, no political party is and if we have to start over, there’s a lot of work to be done.


10 posted on 06/07/2007 11:31:06 PM PDT by TheThinker
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NOW! Can they just build the damn 800 miles of double strand fence Rep. Hunter keeps calling to our collective attention? Sheesh, you’d think these elected reps think they’re royalty instead of our hired representatives!
11 posted on 06/07/2007 11:33:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Not by a long shot. While the president holds the power of executive order, he can do harm.

And not only the power of executive order, but the power to appoint and empower scumbags like Johnny Sutton to help keep the borders wide open by giving Mexican drug smugglers immunity and throwing border patrol agents in jail.

12 posted on 06/07/2007 11:35:57 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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13 posted on 06/07/2007 11:39:19 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: TheThinker
there’s a lot of work to be done.

First and foremost, Republicans must make it clear that it was Republicans who ultimately killed the bill. Reid is already out there distancing himself (and his party) from the bill and pointing his finger at Bush. That's fair enough, but Bush is a (very) lame duck anyway, so the public may not buy Harry's shenanigans.

14 posted on 06/07/2007 11:41:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Why doesn’t congress just declare war on Mexico, place our troops down on the border there and take over their oil wells, and resort towns and really start helping the Mexicans by running their gov’t for them!


15 posted on 06/07/2007 11:41:19 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: princess leah

You get an ‘A’
Cheers! for the defeat of this bill and all who sail her...


16 posted on 06/07/2007 11:51:40 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

Is that plain old iced tea, or Long Island iced tea?


17 posted on 06/08/2007 12:30:50 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Lancey Howard
so the public may not buy Harry's shenanigans.

Like Rhett Butler, the "public" don't give a damn.

I'll bet only 1 in 10 even knows what's going on. But, hopefully, that's enough.

18 posted on 06/08/2007 12:34:03 AM PDT by leadhead (The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no)
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To: FlyVet

That’s a beer. I’m pretty sure it would be a non-alcoholic beer. It seems W has taken ill, hope he’s better tomorrow. He could use all our prayers.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1846872/posts


19 posted on 06/08/2007 1:47:21 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance
When Laura Ingraham was raking him over the coals last week, at the end of her rant she had an audio clip of W slurring his speech really badly. He sounded drunk as a skunk (and oh boy do I know drunk as a skunk with all my personal ups and downs).

Although I'm disgusted with his stand on illegal immigration, I'm not above praying for the man. He does need to be prayed for. He's got the hardest job in the world. He asked for it, but damn, it's a hard job. He's surrounded by pit vipers who want him to fail

20 posted on 06/08/2007 2:35:10 AM PDT by FlyVet
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