Posted on 06/07/2007 10:06:54 PM PDT by pissant
“How dos any of that refute this Edwardsian nonsense”
Because you are twisting Romney’s intent to try to match it up with what Edwards said. Romney is talking about perceptions by other countries, and those perceptions, in actuality, exist. He is talking about a reality, and how he would attempt to communicate better with our allies and other countries. Edwards is talking about taking a friggin world tour, travelling the world to make friends, rather than staying home and being President of our country. Just what we need, a President that is never in the U.S. (although, on second thought, considering it would be Edwards, that would not necessarily be a bad thing). This is the role Bill Clinton would play if Hillary gets in. Goodwill ambassador to the world (or, in other words, keeping Bill out of Hillary’s hair). Any President that next gets in, be it Republican or Democrat, will be attempting to communicate better with other world leaders than Bush has. Bush is just a lousy communicator, admit it.
sorry podner. Romney’s the one sounding like Obama. He should give particulars. I can’t think of a single country we need to bend over backwards for. Not at the start of the war and not now. If Mitt Kerney wants to bring it up, its up to him to ID the failed diplomacy.
Was it with “friends” like Chirac and deVillapin? With the socialists in Spain? Saddam? KimJong Il? Hugo?
Or with those bitter former allies like the Aussies, Brits Harper’s Canada, Poland, Eastern Europe, Japan, SoKO, Etc?
Nice try, Next? It’s a phony Dem talking point thru and thru. Just ask the pro american guy who just got elected in France, or Harper up north. Or the swedes, poles, czechs, Lithuanians, portugese, japs, Aussies etc etc.
The anti american, leftists in those countries did real well in their last elections, huh?
We do elect Reaganites occasionally. I’ll stick with Hunter. You can go celebrity. Enjoy.
“Raise your hand if you actually care about what the world thinks of our country.”
My hand is up with only the middle finger extemded!
“The anti american, leftists in those countries did real well in their last elections, huh?”
Well, now let’s talk about Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia, and the comeback of socialism in Latin America. But, this is all beside the point. The pendulum ever swings in elections. You still need a good communicator as leader of a country. Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, Ronald Reagan, even (gritting teeth), Bill Clinton, all could communicate with their fellow countrymen and whether you liked their politics or not, at least were able to convey their beliefs. But, if you prefer someone who stumbles all over themselves verbally, so be it. Personally, it drives me nuts to have to listen to a lousy communicator, because they aren’t really able to communicate what they believe in adequately. And this has been one of Bush’s major problems. He can’t convey well why we are still in Iraq and its importance to our future security as a nation. I wish he would send Cheney out more, because Cheney is good at conveying what we are up to as a country.
Ooo, Romney has been my second choice, but this is a huge strike against him.
Frankly, I don’t even have a problem with criticizing W. — he’s made some huge errors. But criticize him for the right reasons — bashing him for not getting permission to go into Iraq from countries who were working with Hussein to enrich themselves is either incredibly disingenous or incredibly stupid.
I'd donate the max for the first time ever in my life !
Of course those perceptions exist -- a lot of perceptions exist. Perceptions also exist in those countries that America is a force for good, and that Schroeder and Chirac were crooks and incompetents. Romney could just have easily have countered the meme that our traditional allies perceive us poorly -- and used the election of more friendly govenments in Germany and France as evidence.
Instead, he just added support to that stale old tripe that we heard again and again in the run up to the war. As I said, Romney has been my second choice, so I'm hardly a "hater." And there's plenty to criticize about the Bush administration. But our trouble with our traditional "allies" was the result of those allies not wanting to stop that oil-for-fraud money from rolling in. The fact that Romney basically parrots those "allies'" line in this case may be a deal-breaker for me.
Screw him. I won’t even consider him.
“The fact that Romney basically parrots those “allies’” line in this case may be a deal-breaker for me.”
So be it.
I listened to Fred Thompson today for an hour and I like is ideas but he has no spark.
A president more than anything needs to be able to communicate his message well. I have watched Bush stumble through so many speeches and not really make a point that I could remember thirty seconds later.
Romney is one of the better speakers I have ever seen. I look at him as our Bill Clinton in some ways. (But it looks like he is moral too)
Romney does look a little too slick sometimes with many broad answers but for most of his answers, If I would ask my self “What is the best widest appeal answer I can give?” that is the answer he gives.
How sincere is he I don’t know. The real question is will he become more or less conservative if elected?
It does look like he will not try to change any of the trade deals with China or any real changes to the IRS by going to a sales or import tax.
In fact Romney has no big ideas but I think he will win it all.
Only Hunter has any big ideas and he can’t get over 1%?
Maybe Romney can bring back the Osmond’s show too.
“In fact Romney has no big ideas but I think he will win it all.”
I believe he does have big ideas. He saved the Olympics w/innovative ideas, and he started a business and built it into a mega-business, so business-wise he is a great capitalist and has had lots of big ideas. Hopefully that could translate to the same in the presidency. Plus he put Massachusetts in the black. I think he is very quick on his political feet. However, one never knows for sure until they are in the office. I had great hopes for Bush at one point, and that was a big disappointment.
I’m not at a point where I am throwing my weight behind any given candidate, frankly. It’s too early in the game and I want to hear more. My first choice would be Duncan Hunter, but it seems he can’t get himself off of the second tier. At the moment Romney is second in my mind, however, Fred Thompson has yet to enter stage right, and what he says may sway me in his direction. But the major thing I want in any candidate I end up supporting, is an ability to communicate and convey to the public his ideas, and will be able to verbally fight for those ideas. That is my major consideration. Bush is lousy at that.
Fred Thompson “has no spark” you say? Are you sure you weren’t watching Tommy Thompson? Fred is a communicator on the level of Presidents Reagan, Clinton, both Roosevelts and more. I see a President Thompson leading us back to our federalist roots while, at the same time, leading us higher and higher in so many ways (economic, foreign affairs, traditional values, education, etc..) Please take a second look at the posts here about Fred Thompson.
You don’t remember the great grassroots Howard Dean juggernaut? yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! If I am a foreign enemy or an illegal, I am going to fear Duncan Hunter being elected, that is, if they have any understanding of the man. I think, ‘realistically’, Hunter has an excellent chance if voters are living in any ‘reality’ of their own. If not, you might well expect Hunter to have no chance and to see a NY Liberal, a New England Fakey guy, an unbalanced Arizonan, or a popular tiro, who writes cool speeches,while dipping his toes in the water, as the nominee.
Sounds like Mitt's watching too much Blitzer, Couric, Williams, Gibson, Leher and Matthews. You add wobbly to a flopper and you get... L O S E R.
30% of americans are not voting for a cultist.
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