FOX reporting Immigration Bill on Death Bed

Fox News | 6/7/07 | Freespirited

[freespirited]

Major Garrett has sources on both sides of the aisle telling him we can write the bill's obituary. Roll call going on now.

[dixiechick2000]

"excite me about as much as anal fissures."

ROTFLOL! That was funny. ;o)

I totally agree with your assessment.
I haven't lived in the South for the past 15 years.
Yet, when I meet someone from there out here, it's like old home week.

We, generally, understand each other, and it gives me a good feeling...
like putting on a well broken in pair of slippers.

My in-laws are from Texas, and you hit that nail on the head, too.
But, I don't think it tops the South, though.
They are pretty much the same, IMO.

[stainlessbanner]

Anywhere you go in the world, if you meet an American from Dixie

Ain't that the truth? It is like old home week when you meet fellow Southerners. There is a feeling of kinship, respect, and down home graciousness. Nothing like coming home to Dixie after a trip - the grandaddy oaks, the sweet smell of orange blossoms.....

There's an old Hank song called Dixie Cannonball:

I'm a headin' back to Dixie
That's the place I want to be
Where the cotton grows and the Suwanee flows
That's home sweet home to me
Where they meet you and they greet you
With a great big "Hi Y'all!"
Shut my mouth, I'm a headin' South
On the Dixie Cannonball!

[Colonel Kangaroo]

I know you're not a fan of slavery. But I wish people would take take to heart the words of the people who actually instigated the secession. They were all about slavery and their stupid self-centered action put better men like Robert E. Lee in a terrible situation where they had to either violate their better judgment or their loyalty to their home state.

I don't know as much about Stonewall Jackson as I do Lee, so I'm not aware of his admirable personalty as I am Lee.

You don't like Lee and Jackson denigrated. I understand the feeling. I admire Abraham Lincoln and don't appreciate Dilorenzo's one-sided ridiculous portrait of Lincoln as the Count Dracula of American politics. But I don't think calling Lee and Stonewall traitors in a technical sense means that you denigrate their sterling personalities. I just wish the anti-Lincoln crowd could likewise see Lincoln as more than a comic book villain.

I don't think the reb flag is a racist symbol at all for the true heritage types. But sadly it's been hijacked. And when the flag is in a public setting it's on property that also belongs to citizens who are offended by it. I don't approve of the NAACP broad brush unsparing rhetoric, but I'm I can understand why some people have legitimate objections to that flag on public property.

[Colonel Kangaroo]

I don't know what being a social conservative has to do with one's views on the Civil War.

I'm a southern social conservative who happens to think that the CSA stunk and the best day ever for southerners was when our Union army broke the slaveowners yoke that was on the neck of the hardworking southern people.

I love this quote from a Unionist Alabama man who had the slave empire figured out:

"All tha want is to git you...to fight for their infernal Negroes and after you do their fightin' you may kiss their hind parts for o tha care."

[wardaddy]

I don't know what being a social conservative has to do with one's views on the Civil War.

That much is obvious.

[wardaddy]

I'm a southern social conservative

hardly..

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

There are mistakes and then there are MISTAKES.

This was a MAJOR MISTAKE.

[Colonel Kangaroo]

I suspect we agree on more issues than we disagree, despite our opinions on the Slave Empire (CSA).

Democrats never change. From Jeff Davis to Jesse Jackson. All the same. Give me Lincoln and Reagan and leave the Democrats to divide and conquer and live off the sweat of people who actually work for a living.

[wardaddy]

I’m ambivalent about Lincoln....

Thomas Jefferson was a Democrat....as was Madison.

It’s just not as simple as Democrat-Republican over history... though admittedly the Democrats at least since FDR are very very problematic.

But then again...John Kennedy was much more conservative than 80% of the GOP today...in my opinion....as was Scoop Jackson and those.

Now of course we are in a situation where the Dems are 99% off the reservation for anyone even slightly conservative.

and the GOP are questionable.

up until recently I did not see the GOP being marginalized by 3rd party but I do now....and am very concerned about the short term damage.

third parties gave us the WBTS as you might recall...so it’s a perilous path

my beef is not refighting anything....but any new school of thought that makes Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lee or TJ Jackson unfit for school names because they owned slaves or fought for the South after being invaded to quell said succession (and yes I am aware of Ft Sumter....I would have ignored the fort myself)...anyhow...that sort of thinking is just not for me or mine nor do any of the several hundred southern conservatives I know ...even black....feel that way either.

If you are on a crusade then you have your work cut out for you....but you do have time on your side arguably.

thanks for the cordial post

[Colonel Kangaroo]

No doubt on this message board we’ll be on the the other side in some hard contentions on the Civil War in the future, but now it appears as if the president is going to make his Pickett’s Charge for his amnesty bill, so it's time for the Blue and Gray to join together to break the assault.

[wardaddy]

amen there brother....they get amensty and historical quibbles become as moot as the Bastille.