Posted on 06/07/2007 9:45:14 AM PDT by Fennie
I'd be more likely to expect a 'twofer' - not allowing Iran to merely instigate festivities but to suffer a role in them.
And, both posts #20 and #29 following are probably correct.
Is Syria seriously serious about getting their asses seriously kicked by Israel again????? They can’t be serious?
Actually, I think that Syria and Assad learned quite a bit from last summer's incursion into Lebanon by the IDF. They learned that the Israeli political leadership is unwilling to do what it takes to win a war, something that Israel used to be able to do.
I've got NO confidence in Olmert or his cronies. I believe that Israel may very well fall within the next year, but if Assad's smart, he'll wait until President Bush is out of office, unless the US opens a new front with Iran.
Mark
...end of story.
Right now the odds are with Syria for the first time in 40 years.
If Syria started trouble this summer, though, I don’t think we’d see a repeat of 1973 .... I doubt syria would rely much on armor and try to duplicate Hezbollah’s tactics on a larger scale.
Syira’s armor and air force would pretty much sit out any conflict. My guess is that Syria would use a war for leverage, not to seize the Golan by direct military force but by the use of force to inflict enough pain to drive Israel’s political leadership into political negotiations for land for peace.
Syria would use small infantry units to attack Israeli positions with the goal to create Israeli casualties, not claim territory. Infantry, with portable ATGW and RPGs, mortars, etc backed by rockets and missiles, would be the prime instrument of the Syrian armed forces. It wouldn’t be all out war ... but a small boarder war. They would rely on international pressure to keep Israel in check ... just like happened in Lebanon.
I sure wish Israel had elected a new leader since then...
The only way Isreal would be at a strategic disadvantage is if Egypt lined up against her. Don’t see any indication of that happenning. Yet!
What a loverly idea, do you have one for Iran too.
Exactly, which is why Syria couldn’t attack all out. Syria isn’t strong enough to defeat Israel head to head. But, Israel’s political weakness and the pervasive anti-Israeli mood in the international arena could be used just as Hezbollah did last summer.
And, Syria could bring alot more firepower to the table than Hezbollah did, even in a limited war roll. The key for Syria, if it takes this route, is to make sure she acts while Israel is politically weak AND to manage the war to make sure thier pressure isn’t to much.
Basically, for Syria, the ideal would be a rely of last summer with Palestianian and Hezbollah action as well as Syria employing the same light Infantry tactics. Never force Israel into a situation where her existance is threatened, but use enough force to wear on the IDF and Israeli moral.
Death by a thousand papercuts, if you will.
Bible: The Antichrist is an unparalleled political, military and religious leader that will that emerge in the last-days.
Islam: The Mahdi is an unparalleled political, military and religious leader that will emerge in the last-days.
Bible: the False Prophet is a secondary prominent figure that will emerge in the last-days who will support the Antichrist.
Islam: the Muslim Jesus is a secondary prominent figure that will emerge in the last-days to support the Mahdi.
Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet together will have a powerful army that will do great damage to the earth in an effort to subdue every nation and dominate the World.
Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will have a powerful army that will attempt to control every nation of the earth and dominate the World.
Bible: The False Prophet is described essentially as a dragon in lamb’s clothing.
Islam: The Muslim Jesus literally comes bearing the name of the one that the world knows as “The Lamb of God: Jesus Christ.” Yet the Muslim Jesus comes to murder all those who do not submit to Islam.
Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet establish a New World Order.
Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus establish a New World Order.
Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet institute new laws for the whole earth.
Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus institute Islamic law all over the earth.
Bible: The Antichrist is said to “change the times.”
Islam: It is quite certain that if the Mahdi established Islam all over the earth, he would discontinue the use of Saturday and Sunday as the weekend or days of rest but rather Friday, the holy day of Islam. Also, he would most certainly eliminate the Gregorian calendar (A.D.), and replace it with the Islamic calendar (A. H.) as is used in every Islamic country.
Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will both be powerful religious leaders who will attempt to institute a universal world religion.
Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will institute Islam as the only religion in the earth.
Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will execute anyone who does not submit to their world religion.
Islam: Likewise, the Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will execute anyone who does not submit to Islam.
Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will specifically use beheading as the primary means of execution for non-conformists.
Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will use the Islamic practice of beheading for executions.
Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will have a specific agenda to kill as many Jews as possible.
Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will kill as many Jews as is possible until only a few are left hiding behind rocks and trees.
Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will attack to conquer and seize Jerusalem.
Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will attack to re-conquer and seize Jerusalem for Islam.
Bible: The Antichrist will set himself up in the Jewish temple as his seat of authority.
Islam: The Mahdi will establish the Islamic Caliphate from Jerusalem.
Bible: The False Prophet is said to do many miracles to deceive as many as possible into supporting the Antichrist.
Islam: The Mahdi himself is said to control the weather and the crops. His face is said to glow. We can also assume that since Jesus is viewed as having been empowered by Allah to work miracles when he was here on earth the first time, he will most likely be expected to continue to do so when he returns.
Bible: The Antichrist is described as riding on a white horse in the Book of Revelation
Islam: The Mahdi is described as riding on a white horse (ironically from the same verse).
Bible: The Antichrist is said to make a peace treaty with Israel for seven years.
Islam: The Mahdi is said to make a peace treaty through a Jew (specifically a Levite) for exactly seven years.
Bible: Jesus the Jewish Messiah will return to defend the Jews in Israel from a military attack from a vast coalition of nations led by the Antichrist and the False Prophet.
Islam: The Dajjal, the Islamic Antichrist will gain a great Jewish following and claim to be Jesus Christ and fight against the Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus.
Bible: The antichrist spirit specifically denies the most unique and central doctrines of Christianity, namely the trinity, the incarnation and the substitutionary death of Jesus on the cross.
Islam: Islam doctrinally and spiritually specifically denies the most unique and central doctrines of Christianity, namely the trinity, the incarnation and the substitutionary death of Jesus on the cross.
Bible: The primary warning of Jesus and the Apostle Paul was to warn Christians of the abundance of deceit and deception in the last-days.
Islam: Islam is perhaps the only religion in the earth that practices deceit as one of its tools to assist its own ascendancy. It actually has a specific doctrine which allows and even calls for deception to be used to achieve its desired end.
Bible: The specific nations pictured in the Bible as being part of the final empire of the Antichrist are all Islamic nations.
Islam: All Muslims are commanded to give their allegiance to The Mahdi as the final Caliph and Imam (leader) of Islam.
Bible: From the Bible and History we learn that the final Antichrist empire will be a revived version of the Empire that succeeds the Roman Empire
Islam: The Empire that succeeded the Roman/Byzantine Empire was the Islamic Ottoman Empire
Bible: When Antichrist emerges, there will already be some form of system in place that will be poised to receive him as a Savior and to give allegiance to him.
Islam: is already the second largest religion and will at present growth rates become the largest religion within a few decades. Islam is awaiting the coming of the Mahdi with a universal anticipation.
What many consider interesting is between the 40th anniversaryb'shem Yah'shua
on the Jewish calendar IYAR 26 to SIVAN 2 and the Gentile
40th anniversary on June 5th - 10th is both the Jewish observance
of Shavuot on SIVAN 6/7 and the Christian Pentecost on May 27th.In addition the meaning of 40 as a period of probation
as in the life of Moses. Three time a forty year period.There is also a 40 year period from the death and resurrection
of Yah'shua to the Destruction of the temple in Jerusalem.
I vacillate as to when the Gog war will be. I think a very good cases can be made for a number of possibilities..
Bela Pelosi just emboldened them. But whatever happens, she will still blame Bush.
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Regarding the antichrist and his I.D. - How significant (to you) is all the apostasy we see in the Christian Church itself now, among our own, among so called believers who are saying that Jesus Christ is NOT the only way to the Father?
Do you think there is any chance the AC will come out of the Christian Church itself - this apostate claiming to believe in Jesus Christ as just one way to the Father but saying heretically that there are other ways, many ways to the Father?
P.S. And regarding the AC possibly coming out of the Christian church itself...do you think it is significant that such a large portion of Christian Churches believe in error that the Holy Land was taken away from the Jewish people, and given to the Gentiles instead (Replacement Theology). Islam is not the only one who is claiming it as theirs. The portion of the Christian Church that holds to Replacement theology also claims it as theirs.
I dont see any possibility that the AC will be Christian or Catholic.
Europe is heading into a demographic collapse and the Muslims are currently colonizing it.
I think the oversight of Islam in past prophecy interpretation is similiar to the oversight of “spiritualizing” Israel out of the prophecies until the 20th Century came and Israel was reestablished.
We tend to intreptet the propecies from our historical POV and I think as the time comes closers, the errors of the past get corrected by more and more literal view of prophecy.
Islam wasn’t very significant in world affairs in the past few hundred years as it is now just as Jews and the State of Israel wasn’t viewed as significant until the past century.
I see way too many similarities (yet opposite similiarities) between Islam and the Bible for the Islam stuff to be all a coincidence.
>The portion of the Christian Church that holds to Replacement theology also claims it as theirs
And where is thier army? Where is their power? Where is their evilness? I see this sect of the church as having none of that.
So I wonder what good ole, Nancy-The-Appeaser, would have to say about this if fighting were to break out?
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