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Assembly votes to require neutering
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 6/7/7 | Mark Martin

Posted on 06/07/2007 7:45:09 AM PDT by SmithL

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To: Carry_Okie

I understand where your coming from on this. And if every dog owner acted responsibly as you and I do, there wouldn’t be a need for such a law.

I just know we live in a ‘kill county’, and that we get ‘dumped dogs’ all the time, along with cats, and who knows what else (a local idiot just released ten breeding pairs of hybrid wolf dogs here, about five miles from my house - the ecosystem here will never be the same because of it I fear).

Its a ‘poor county’ with a population of less than 45k in the last census (Brown County Ohio). They barely have the funds to keep the shelter open, let alone offer a ‘bounty’.

I’m surprised the legislation doesn’t have a provision for breeders like yourself.

Hope you understand where I’m coming from on this. We act responsibly on this topic, most don’t seem to, and I find the results early on any given morning in my yard, or pole barn, or just wandering the country road where I live, looking scared and confused and half starved. It just breaks our hearts to see this time and time again.

We do what we can....but we’re getting overwhelmed here.


41 posted on 06/07/2007 9:15:16 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Carry_Okie

When puppies are outlawed...

Only outlaws will have puppies


42 posted on 06/07/2007 9:15:51 AM PDT by steelie (Still Right Thinking)
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To: Badeye
I just know we live in a ‘kill county’, and that we get ‘dumped dogs’ all the time, along with cats, and who knows what else (a local idiot just released ten breeding pairs of hybrid wolf dogs here, about five miles from my house - the ecosystem here will never be the same because of it I fear).

Bounties are what extirpated the wolf in the first place. They work.

Its a ‘poor county’ with a population of less than 45k in the last census (Brown County Ohio). They barely have the funds to keep the shelter open, let alone offer a ‘bounty’.

Bounties are cheaper than hiring bureaucrats to police this law.

I’m surprised the legislation doesn’t have a provision for breeders like yourself.

As I said, breeding good animals is not the objective.

Hope you understand where I’m coming from on this.

Of course.

It just breaks our hearts to see this time and time again.

Just don't let your broken heart go to your head.

43 posted on 06/07/2007 9:20:16 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Badeye

So what explains this local problem that you have?

What makes the folks in your area so irresponsible and careless? Is it a local culture thing?


44 posted on 06/07/2007 9:23:52 AM PDT by AIM-54
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To: Carry_Okie

‘Just don’t let your broken heart go to your head.’

It hasn’t.

The county just fired the director they hired to correct the problems with the dog pound, then enacted what she suggested that got her fired in the first place.

I refer to where I live as ‘Green Acres on Acid’ and this is a good example of why. Unemployment here in the county is 12%, and THE CROP is....tobacco. Care to guess the farming communities prospects, let alone the available tax base, and its attitudes towards ‘mutts’?

Anyway, glad we have a better understanding of the differing situations between you in CA, and me in rural southern OH.


45 posted on 06/07/2007 9:25:46 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: steelie

(chuckle)

Maybe thats what Mike Vick was counting on.....


46 posted on 06/07/2007 9:26:22 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: AIM-54

‘What makes the folks in your area so irresponsible and careless? Is it a local culture thing?’

Its the Appalachian Zone...or just ‘The Zone’ as I refer to it. Very pretty, but they are (no offense intended to anyone reading this) Hillbilly deluxe types, as the song by that name describes Friday and Saturday nights.

Local culture is the best description. Its the only ‘downside’ to living here...and to be honest the benefits far outweigh the negatives like this.

Our property has no ‘common line’ because of the two roads and a major stream. Across the ‘road’ to either side we have working couples that also raise horses ‘on the side’. The only time they call a vet is if a horse has a problem, dogs and cats live or die it simply doesn’t matter to them, and they keep them all outside 24/7/365 no matter what conditions exist. In fact, one of them have a little black ‘wiener’ type dog with a large four inche gash/slice on his shoulder as I type this, and we’re the one’s giving him antibiotics (He’s a very friendly, handy dog, eats the moles in the lawn - Good boy!). It simply doens’t occur to them to take the dog to a vet....


47 posted on 06/07/2007 9:32:04 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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I suspect that, as usual, if any of the legislators or their close friends, or donors, happen to have a personal or financial interest in breeding, there will be exemptions in the law just for them. Sort of like the Caesar salad exemption for Carole Migden in the raw egg law, or Perata in the gun seizure laws. Good to be the king.


48 posted on 06/07/2007 10:36:48 AM PDT by DPMD (dpmd)
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To: SmithL

The inmates are running the insane asylum. It appears they are trying to wipe out the pet population. This is weird. It would seem the price of pets is going to skyrocket.


49 posted on 06/07/2007 11:13:54 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

Hey, wait a minute... where’s PETA? Isn’t compulsory sterilization a violation of these animals’ rights?

Save Our Dogs
a grassroots effort to save working dogs from AB 1634, mandatory spay/neuter
http://saveourdogs.net/

California Healthy Pets Act Passed by State Assembly
Posted by Kerri Krueger on Jun 24, 2007, 11:17
Canyon News
http://www.canyon-news.com/artman/publish/article_5641.php

“The act was first introduced to the State Assembly by Assemblyman Lloyd Levine (D) on February 27, 2007... Dr. Charles Hjerpe, Professor Emeritus at the University of California-Davis has said, ‘As presently proposed, AB 1634 would not result in fewer animals shelter euthanasia. In the past, where very strict local mandatory spay/neuter ordinances have been implemented, large increase in rates of animals abandonment and animals shelter euthanasia have often been observed. The factors have been high fees charged for intact permits, active enforcement of the ordinances, and large fines for non-compliance.’”

Bob Barker Pushes Pet Bill In California
CBS 4 MIAMI | 07JUNE 2007 | AP
Posted on 06/07/2007 8:31:39 PM EDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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California advances bill to sterilize pets
CNN.com/Reuters
Posted on 06/09/2007 9:57:50 AM EDT by ReignOfError
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Dog Attacks Prompts Call For Ban On Some Breeds [Minnesota]
WCCO.COM | 15 JUNE 2007 | AP
Posted on 06/16/2007 3:02:04 PM EDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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