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Posted on 06/06/2007 7:35:28 AM PDT by Reaganesque
That was his spin only after he got heat for announcing that the war was lost.
And the writer of this article was wrong for allowing Dingy Harry to skate on the basis of this follow-up statement.
Bibbity boppity boo. Don’t mind me, just passing through. Hippity hoppity hoo.
“I believe in God, believe in the Bible, believe Jesus Christ is my savior. I believe that God created man in his image. I believe that the freedoms of man derive from inalienable rights that were given to us by God.”
Well, that is a slippery political interpretation coming from Bishop Mitt.
1) He believes in multiple Gods, not just God. Please be truthful.
2) He believes in a retranslated Bible, plus the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, Pearl of Great Price, which all override the Bible. Mitt’s not being very truthful again.
3) He believes Jesus Christ is his savior, but that he can rise to be an equivalent.
4) He believes that God created man in his image - a multitude of god embryos. I’m sure he won’t tell Americans that.
5) He believes that the freedoms of man derives from inalienable rights that were given to us by God - at least he got that one right.
He was only able to answer one out of five truthfully, which would fit the rest of his image.
[Romney said he believes some political pundits are “hoping” he will distance himself from the church to help him politically.
“That’s not going to happen,” Romney said, drawing some applause from the crowd.]
Except, he just did distance himself from the church by hiding their doctrines. And nary a whisper of his being a High Melchizedek Priest, that will have to be hushed up for him to remain viable. Heres what he really believes about the Bible, according to doctrine:
[http://ldsfaq.byu.edu/emmain.asp?number=216
VIEW OF THE BIBLE. The official position of the Church is stated in its eighth article of faith: “We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly.” The message of the Bible is held to be true, while details of accuracy and completeness are accepted within certain limits. The Prophet Joseph Smith explained: “I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers. Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors” (TPJS, p. 327). ]
We use the KJV in our study of the Bible. The JST is used only as a supplement. The fact that you find this statement to be full of lies speaks more of your biases than it does of Mitt’s character.
Well, hard to know what to say to this. His statement is full of broad generalities, true as far as they go but, as FastCoyote says, meaning something rather different from what most people would take them to mean.
Are these generalities a lie? No. Are they somewhat misleading? Probably. Can you blame him for not going into details about the Mormon faith when it might get him in trouble with the voters? Not really, everyone does it.
But I am still bothered that Romney is very smooth with these broad generalities in many areas, yet not clearly to be counted on. I don’t find his Mormonism a problem, but I am disturbed about the many inconsistencies of his positions on gay marriage or partnership and abortion, among others. You can’t blame a politician for trying to avoid offending various constituencies during a campaign, but you can blame him for flip flopping, which I believe he has done, and would do again if elected.
LDS Doctrine: lesson manuals, scriptures online
(I recommend the book Gospel Essentials to get a good, overall idea of LDS beliefs.)
Recent General Conference addresses - LDS sermons in text and audio
I actually agree with you.
But I'm going to continue to post information for those who might read the Mormon-bashing stuff and believe it, so they can get the truth about our beliefs. I'll only post it in response to anti-Mormon posts.
BTW, you're free to skip over the posts that annoy you. :-)
Theology is not a sound basis for evaluating presidential candidates. It is a matter of faith, not science or fact. No human knows the mind of God. No human can authoritatively state his interpretation of God is correct while someone else’s is wrong. Lack of humility on this unknowable is what leads to religious wars.
It is inconceivable that God would approve of battles over theology. There is great wisdom in the adminition to “judge not, lest ye be judged.” Those who forget this make fools of themselves and surely must be at odds with God. This is why we are appalled by the Jihadists who presume that God has sanctioned/ordered them to kill others humans in his name.
The key is to assess the policies advocated and the character of the candidates. If you like Romney’s policy positions and trust him to try to implement them, vote for him. If you don’t like his policy positions or don’t trust him to try to implement them, vote for someone else.
I am not a Mormon, but from what I have observed of the behavior of the vast majority of persons of this faith, they seem to be of good character. If this good character is inspired by their faith, it seems wrongheaded to judge Mormons harshly because their theology seems strange. From the outside, all faiths harbor beliefs that seem strange to nonbelievers.
If there were a good conservative Republican who was also a practicing Muslim, I wonder if there would be as many folks inclined to him as there are here to Mitt...just asking?
Holy Nephi, TChris, you don't need to do that as the TRUTH about LDS is best summed up in historian Fawn Brodie's prize-winning "No Man Knows My History"!
My main beef with Mitt is the fact that he took very different positions on issues as important as aborton when running for the Governor of Massachusetts than he does when running for President. He was either hiding his real views to advance his ambition then or he is doing it now. Or has he been telling people what they want to hear all along? We have a poor trio of top three (declared) candidates. Flip-flopping Mitt isn’t the answer anymore than Rino Rudy and Crazy John McCain are.
Well, your point was that Mitt's faith shouldn't be a factor, but if wouldn't vote for Muslims, Hindus or Buddhists, then I submit you're employing a double standard.
Mormons do not have a reputation for blowing other people up. As unfair as that reputation is to the majority of Muslims who don’t, for those whom it is fair, it is a well earned one. And when you have a population of millions and millions, even a small minority can number in the tens if not hundreds of thousands of people. That is a legitimate and pressing concern. There is no such reputation regarding Mormons.
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