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Immigration bill: Go ahead--break the law! Who cares?
Renew America ^ | June 4, 2007 | Wes Vernon

Posted on 06/05/2007 8:31:10 AM PDT by AuntB

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To: AuntB

TURN THE ENEMIES WEAPON AGAINST HIM

Call the “Senate Immigration Reform Hotline” at 1 800 417 7666
Press 1 for your senior senator, 2 for your junior senator.

This will connect you DIRECTLY to your senator without going through the congressional switchboard.

JAM THE LINES. LET THEM HEAR OUR ANGER AND FURY.


61 posted on 06/05/2007 10:26:29 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Phantom Patriot
Where is John Galt?
62 posted on 06/05/2007 10:41:34 AM PDT by Swordfished
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To: processing please hold
The only question that remains is 'what are we going to do about it?'P>

300 million additional applications for "Z" Visa's ought to help shut it all down. Blackbird.

63 posted on 06/05/2007 10:54:06 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, another day dawns!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Mr. Kennedy and others of his ilk are well taken care of by us. Their retirements are set, health care and all. Ask Mr. Kennedy and the rest to document for 1 week everything they do. If they are honest ( I can’t believe I said that. ) You will see that they have no idea what the rest of us go through every day. Do you think he is concerned about his job? Doubtful, and even if he lost his job he would not seek unemployment or wonder where his next meal or where he will live will be, or how will he get his medication.. Do you think for a minute he is concerned about his wages being reduced because of cheap unskilled labor? Likely not! They give themselves raises.
That is why he and the rest can afford to be bleeding hearts at the expense of the working people of this Country.

Do you see the media report on this topic without political spin? Only a very few. The negatives we espouse are swept under the rug.

In short, I believe that the last 30 yrs. or more are absolute evidence that our politicians have not taken their oath or responsibilities seriously. It’s time for a pay cut. And a benefit cut. When they begin to take their fiduciary responsibilities seriously then we can talk. And anyway where does it state in any document from the founders or any writings that these individuals should be compensated so highly. I didn't know PUBLIC SERVICE was to be rewarded so greatly. I thought it was for an individual to make an impact on policy not my pocketbook.

64 posted on 06/05/2007 11:12:18 AM PDT by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: Mugwump
Re “CLICK IT OR TICKET”

We are seeing those signs in Colorado too. I wonder if it is a nationwide campaign tied in with TV ads and cereal box promotions.

This is how they grab power. They mandate by law something that makes common sense. How can you argue against seat belts? Now they are telling us what we can eat and how much water we can have in our toilets.

65 posted on 06/05/2007 11:21:29 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans

We are seeing those signs in Colorado too.

Here in fairyland also. It’s an opening for them to search your vehicle if you don’t look quite right.


66 posted on 06/05/2007 11:26:32 AM PDT by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: penowa
I suspect Vincente Fox has a much better chance of being Hillary's successor than Jeb Bush does.

At this moment, yes he does. But after four to eight years of Hillary's misrule, who knows. Remember how nostalgic the sheeple were for the son of Bush after eight years of Bill's misrule?

67 posted on 06/05/2007 11:30:51 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Vigilanteman
Yes, I remember. Many regretted voting for Perot and saddling us with the Clintons, and they set about making it up to George I by electing his son.

I suspect with a big chunk of Mexico living and voting here (if those demonstrations flying the Mexican flag get the illegals made legal in a couple of months, I think they'll be voting maybe by '08, perhaps illegally, but certainly legally by '16) and we'll see our first Mexican-born El Presidente. Wonder if the Canadians are ready for it? Probably, since they're much more progressive than we are.

Did you see the poll that says ONLY half of Mexico wants to come here at the present time?

68 posted on 06/05/2007 12:04:14 PM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: penowa
Did you see the poll that says ONLY half of Mexico wants to come here at the present time?

Is that because the other half is already here?

I'd be a lot more open to immigration if Mexico would take some of our lazy, white liberals in return. It would be nice if La Raza wasn't so racist as to be willing to discuss such an exchange. It would save the marijuana growers a bundle in shipping costs too.

69 posted on 06/05/2007 1:32:48 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Vigilanteman

Mexico will not be entering the Olympics anymore, because everyone that can run, jump, swim, or crawl is already in the USA.


70 posted on 06/05/2007 1:40:39 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: RightWhale
CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY I SHOULDN’T?!

I really meant that from the standpoint of ethics and morality, i.e. why should I obey the law when literally tens of millions will get a largely free ride for not having done so. I agree that spending time in prison is a good reason not to do certain things, and I'm not serious about breaking the laws in question.

But I'd love to see one of the pro-amnesty pols answer that or a similar question.

71 posted on 06/05/2007 2:19:48 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: RightWhale
and doubly so for talking about such a poor decision

Oh, and IF I was REALLY going to break the law, I wouldn't be stupid enough to simultaneously announce it and leave behind evidence of premeditation.

72 posted on 06/05/2007 2:23:06 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Phantom Patriot
Here in fairyland also.

Everywhere in the mid-atlantic too. Methinks across the Nation.

It’s an opening for them to search your vehicle if you don’t look quite right.

Agreed; but seriously, the question is, who is "them"?

73 posted on 06/05/2007 2:23:20 PM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: Ancesthntr

As to morality, experience should be a guide as well as a reminder. One’s personal experience should help make these decisions, but seeing what happens to others gives a lot more examples since there are many more others than yourself. Sometimes history can help, too, although there are probably more examples of atrocious behavior than benevolent. There’s a lot of material to study and even then it comes down to what you decide. There is also the possibility of eternal punishment in the fifth ring of hell, but then again maybe that’s just a story.


74 posted on 06/05/2007 2:26:06 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Ancesthntr

Best just be good. Granted it is no guarantee of a happy or long life, but the odds are better.


75 posted on 06/05/2007 2:29:07 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: AuntB

Adios America, bienvenidos Amexica.


76 posted on 06/05/2007 3:16:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: RightWhale
Best just be good.

I try...but what is "good." Oh, I know, there are immutable laws on important things like not murdering others, etc. I don't have a problem with them - and don't even need a law to tell me what to do (or not to do, as the case may be). I have a problem with legislated, victimless "crimes" like going 60 in a 55 zone, not being able to legally buy the same guns my father or grandfathers could, etc. Ideally speaking, of course, everyone should obey all laws, and all laws should be just and reasonable, and also impartially enforced. When the laws aren't just or reasonable, when they aren't enforced (or only against the little guy, or against certain targeted segments of society), and when many or most others don't obey them, well then I have a very hard time doing what "should" be done. Besides, if we are a democracy (of sorts - I know, we're really a Republic), and people "vote" by essentially flipping the bird to the idiots in DC or in state capitals for passing stupid laws that are arbitrarily enforced, isn't that kind of the way things are supposed to work?+

77 posted on 06/05/2007 8:29:30 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Ancesthntr
Oranges are to apples as law is to morals.

Same might be said of logic. Law has a logic of its own.

Orange trees are not particularly closely related to apple trees.

78 posted on 06/06/2007 8:41:44 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Vigilanteman

Great idea, the exchange. LOL!


79 posted on 06/06/2007 8:49:10 AM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: RightWhale

The further from morality any particular law is - especially if it has little rational basis (in the logical sense of that phrase, not the Constitutional Law sense), the less likely the average person is to obey it. Witness Prohibition and the 55 MPH speed limit. All that laws like those do is to encourage contempt for ALL laws.


80 posted on 06/06/2007 10:12:58 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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