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To: Colofornian

Nice try but the question when the spirit enters the body!

Some believe at conception, or at a certain trimester and other at birth when they tap the bottom and it starts to breathe.

So it may not be murder but abortion is taking a life!

but than your whole MO Colofornian, has always been to be 100 per cent contrary when ever possible towards the LDS


51 posted on 06/05/2007 2:42:05 AM PDT by restornu (Matt.10:16 Lord's sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye wise as serpents & harmless as doves ~ Mitt 08)
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To: restornu
Nice try but the question when the spirit enters the body! Some believe at conception, or at a certain trimester and other at birth when they tap the bottom and it starts to breathe.

Uh, I've got news for you...babies already breathe thru the oxygen in the fluid of the amniotic sac.

You know, a lot of folks don't believe that animals have any spirits. So I could come over & shoot your pets if I don't believe they have a spirit in their body?

Your lame philosophy doesn't even allocate protection to pets; yet you would probably spend more time trying to philosophically defend them than the average baby in the womb.

So go ahead & tell God that "spiritless" babies in the womb are worthless to Him. Go ahead. Tell Him. Tell Him that you don't know when they suddenly come of worth, but whatever craftsmanship He has shown thus far in putting together a baby's body that may be spirit-embodied, or may not be, has been a waste 'cause it's headed for the abortion industry chambers.

54 posted on 06/05/2007 8:48:30 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: restornu

Traditionally the soul not only is immortal, surviving when the body dies and, in Christian belief, reunited with the body at the resurrection, but it is also, in Aristotle’s influential terminology, “the form of the body.” The Catechism of the Catholic Church still uses that formulation. “The soul is the form of the body.” A human being is both body and soul, not just one or the other. As long as there is life in the body, there is soul.

The Hebrew word ruach means wind, breath, or spirit. In Greek the word pneuma means the same things: wind, breath, and spirit. Throughout the Bible, these words are interchangeable, so that God breaths life into Adam, and the breath is said to go out of a man at death. The Holy Spirit is portrayed as fire and wind.

Early theologians believed that God instilled the soul or spirit into an unborn child at “quickening” (which means coming alive, as in the old expression “the quick and the dead”), the moment when it was first felt to move. This we now know to be false science. The unborn child is alive from the beginning. At no point is it ever dead matter or cells. Therefore, it is never without life or spirit or soul, unless it dies.


58 posted on 06/07/2007 9:01:51 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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