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Man slain trying to buy car in Dallas (Sad and very serious. All should read.)
Ft Worth Star-Telegram ^ | 06/04/2007 | BILL MILLER

Posted on 06/04/2007 3:01:19 PM PDT by devane617

A McLennan County man was shot to death late Sunday in northeast Dallas while trying to buy a vehicle he may have found on the Internet, police said.

Police are trying to determine if the killing was a setup or random.

Christian Marton, 21, of Axtell, died at Baylor Medical Center, where he was taken after the shooting at about 9:15 p.m. Sunday in the 8900 block of Vantage Point in far northeast Dallas. Axtell is about 14 miles northeast of Waco.

"He had been talking to some people by the Internet and the telephone about purchasing a vehicle,’’ said Lt. Vernon Hale, police spokesman.

Marton and a companion subsequently went to Dallas Sunday evening to meet the sellers on Vantage Point, Hale said. The area is southwest of the intersection of Greenville Avenue and Interstate 635, also called the Lyndon B. Johnson Freeway.

"They came up to that location and it ended up that someone tried to rob them,’’ Hale said. "A suspect demanded money and shot (Marton).’’

Police are trying to identify suspects in the case.

"We don’t know if it was the people trying to sell it to him or somebody saw him sitting there waiting for them,’’ Hale said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: craigslist; murder; texas; texasliberals; tx
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To: Larry Lucido

I agree, she scammed herself. Exchange cash for a car on the street without title transfer? Very naive.
I have used Craigslist for numerous buys and sells with
100% success and really like the site. Common sense goes
a long way!


41 posted on 06/04/2007 5:20:52 PM PDT by Fireone (Duncan Hunter for (Vice) President '08! - gohunter08.com Fred Thompson/Hunter in 2008)
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To: steve86
Probably because I live in an affluent county and purchased only items able to seen locally, the risk is virtually nil.

What I have noticed are phony buyers or renters that want it sight unseen. The conversation goes no further so I don't quite understand their scam.

42 posted on 06/04/2007 5:50:51 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot

The scam is they send you a money order drawn on a foreign bank for several hundred dollars over your selling price and ask for change. The money order bounces and, months later, you’re on the hook for the full amount. They don’t actually want what you’re selling and probably never pick it up.


43 posted on 06/04/2007 5:54:19 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: devane617
Holy S. I didn’t hear about that. And that location is 1 mile from my home.
44 posted on 06/04/2007 5:59:09 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: devane617

I purchased a vehicle from autotrader.com but that was from a dealership.


45 posted on 06/04/2007 6:01:04 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: loungitude

Not necessarily.


46 posted on 06/04/2007 6:01:50 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: mmyers

‘bout right.........


47 posted on 06/04/2007 6:03:45 PM PDT by Osage Orange (molon labe)
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To: Larry Lucido
Okay, thanks. My experience with them was only on real estate offered for sale and/or rent.

Maybe they think they're speaking to the actual layperson seller/owner and not an experienced agent.

48 posted on 06/04/2007 6:05:48 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Alouette
I've bot 3 cars off of eBAY.....

Though one needs to be smart about it....Do your homework, etc, etc.....

I've saved over $4k easily....

FWIW-

49 posted on 06/04/2007 6:06:56 PM PDT by Osage Orange (molon labe)
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To: FightforFreedomCA
Was this from Craigslist ... ?

It was, based on the video clip here.

He was trying to buy 1995 Chevy Caprice. From the above link (boldface added):

On Saturday, they say, Marton received a text message from the man saying that the sale must be completed by Sunday and that Marton needed to pay in cash.
Hopefully the killer left enough tracks listing the car and sending the message that he will be removed from the gene pool at Huntsville sometime this decade.
50 posted on 06/04/2007 6:10:54 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Define legitimate dealer.

There have been several large,very highly advertised used car dealers in this tri-state area found selling cars with no valid titles.Leaving dozens of buyers with two payments and a car they can't license and many dollars and much time wasted.These dealers had nice modern offices ,prime high-traffic locations,sponsored community events,had remote broadcasts at their lots,professional websites,etc.

And ripped people off!

Are you one of those who advocate no private transactions?

Do you really think the nation and people would be better if everyone could buy only from a licensed reseller,and your sole choice in disposing of your property was the trash bin or meekly accept the pittance the used goods store might offer?

No flea markets?

51 posted on 06/04/2007 6:10:59 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: TxCopper

I had a guy try to buy a car from me, he brought a cashiers check made out to HIM. He said, just cross off my name and write yours in.
I said, let’s go to the bank (1 block away) and cash it.
He balked.
His wife mouthed off.
I chased them from my home.
I was armed.
The end.
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TxCopper said:
Not necessarily.
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TxCopper is right!
Thank you. All has been quiet for five years, but let’s talk lessons learned.
I want to learn always, and for the best outcome.


52 posted on 06/04/2007 6:16:10 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: devane617

To be a car?


53 posted on 06/04/2007 6:18:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: devane617

Was this a rough area of the town? I am unfamiliar with the Dallas area.


54 posted on 06/04/2007 6:22:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: PAR35
Occasional murders in that area, but not a particularly bad part of town.

Indeed, it looks pretty middle class.

55 posted on 06/04/2007 6:25:38 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Darnright

>The car wasn’t technically stolen ‘cause the driver was given the keys.<

So if someone goes to a dealership, test drives a car and doesn’t come back, it’s not technically stolen?

Good grief.
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the seller told her he would send her the title in a few days and she could pay the last $100 when the title was delivered. She believed him.
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Titleholder=Owner.
In my experience, the dealer does not give you the title until they get paid. That’s what there’s a title.


56 posted on 06/04/2007 6:25:54 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: loungitude

That’s why there’s a title.
Not
That’s what there’s a title.


57 posted on 06/04/2007 6:29:52 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Sherman Logan
What exactly is the difference between this scenario and buying a car from a private individual through an ad in the classifieds or one of those little car shopper mags?

The only difference I can think of is that the MSM doesn't get their cut.

58 posted on 06/04/2007 6:31:15 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Didn’t used to be. It was called “The Village.” Lots of upscale apartments, lots of “yuppies” living there in the 80s when I lived nearby. But even then there were pockets that were prone to car thefts and even the occasional robbery, especially by Park Lane and Greenville.


59 posted on 06/04/2007 6:47:14 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: Larry Lucido

What she got was a non-notarized bill of sale that means nothing legally. Yes she is naive.


60 posted on 06/04/2007 7:06:47 PM PDT by Sender
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