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Peace Plan In Israel Gains Traction
The Evening Bulletin ^ | 06/04/2007 | David Bedein

Posted on 06/04/2007 9:56:32 AM PDT by Squidpup

Jerusalem - A new peace plan in Israel is gaining attention for its controversial suggestions to solve the current conflicts in Gaza. Known as The Sanders Peace Plan, written by Michael S. Sanders, Director of Expeditions and Research at the Ancient Cultures Research Foundation, the proposal suggests a new paradigm for a comprehensive peace solution in the Middle East. The Sanders Peace Plan is based on the idea that "In a two state solution, it would be agreed that there would be a differentiation between residency and citizenship. All new Arab residents of Israel (present Arab citizens of Israel would be given a choice) would become citizens of Palestine but residents of Israel. All Jews living in Palestine would be citizens of Israel but residents of Palestine." To understand the particulars of the Sanders plan, it would be instructive to see how Sanders addresses three key issues: 1) "The Right of Return." Sanders posits that "The Palestinian side feels strongly that some recognition be granted to those refugees and their descendants who lost their land for a variety of reasons in the area that will be the final State of Israel." Sanders does not seem to know that the "right of return" is not only an "in principle" negotiating position of the Palestinian Arab leadership. Instead, the notion of "right of return" represents the impassioned philosophy which unites all Palestinian factions around the idea that they have the inherent right for descendants of Arab refugees from the 1948 war to replace the state of Israel. Since the inception of the Palestinian Authority in 1994, the PA has indoctrinated a new generation to believe in and fight to the death for the "inalienable" right to return to the 531 villages that they left in 1948. Sanders should peruse www.PalestineRemembered.com to see how Palestinians have carefully charted their return to every one of these villages, regardless of whether or not Israelis live there now. 2) "The Final Boundaries". Sanders posits that " Palestinians have demanded that Israel withdraw completely to the 1967 borders which at present is interpreted as the dismantling of all the Israeli 'settlements' in the so-called 'West Bank,' 'Gaza' and 'East Jerusalem'..." and that "The Israelis wish to keep Jerusalem as an undivided capital of Israel and not dismantle large 'settlement' blocks on the east of the 1967 'borders' ..." Sanders suggests a solution to this issue by suggesting that Israelis and Arabs be granted the right to purchase land on both sides of the 1967 line, allowing Arabs to live in Israel, while allowing Jews to live in a future Palestinian Arab state. Sanders does not seem to know that the Palestinian leadership has never seen a future Palestinian state limited to the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza. The consistent and unchanging position of the Palestinian leadership, expressed in all Arabic content of the Palestinian Authority schools and media, remains their demand for control over all of Jerusalem and for hegemony over all of Palestine. In March 2003, after sources in the Vatican disclosed the constitution of the Palestinian Authority to this reporter, these goals of the Palestinian leadership were confirmed. 3) "Jerusalem and the Temple Mount". Sanders posits that "the problem is essentially one of religion with each side claiming their right to the Temple Mount. The evidence is overwhelming that these conflicting claims are the result of archaeological misunderstandings." Sanders ignores the fact that Israel recognizes that both Islam and Judaism recognize the holiness of the Temple Mount to their respective religions, while the Palestinian Arab leadership recognizes no Jewish right to the Temple Mount. The fact that the Palestinian Arab leadership has sought to destroy archaeological artifacts found on the Temple Mount is far from an "archaeological misunderstanding." It is difficult for Sanders and some other advocates of Middle East peace to understand the tenacity and the ferocity of anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism, as represented by entities such as the PLO and Hamas, neither of whom seek a rational means to resolve the current Middle East crisis.


TOPICS: Israel
KEYWORDS: israel; middleeast; peace
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1 posted on 06/04/2007 9:56:37 AM PDT by Squidpup
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To: Squidpup

Sorry for the formatting (paragraphs are our friends!)


2 posted on 06/04/2007 9:57:35 AM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Squidpup

How can one make “peace” with “palestinians” who do not exist but for predominantly islamist arab squatters and renegades?


3 posted on 06/04/2007 10:03:37 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Squidpup

“Stop the insanity!”


4 posted on 06/04/2007 10:24:19 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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5 posted on 06/04/2007 11:10:54 AM PDT by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malra ux)
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To: onedoug

In the book “The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem” (1947-1949) by Benny Morris, a Jewish professor of history at Ben-Gurion University, quotes:

“A Jewish state would not have come into existence without the uprooting of 700,000 Palestinians. There are cases in which the overall, final good justifies harsh and cruel acts that are committed in the course of history.”

I support Israel, its being the only democracy in the Middle East and the enemy of the Islamic terrorists. But at the same time, let’s not rewrite history about the birth of the state of Israel.


6 posted on 06/04/2007 11:26:25 AM PDT by tabsternager
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"A Jewish state would not have come into existence without the uprooting of 700,000 Palestinians...."

And how were these so-called "palestinians" uprooted with the creation of the Jewish state?

There are no "palestinians" but for various conglmerations of islamist arabs who are at war with Israel, and with US, and by virtue of their being islamist should be killed en masse.

How many Muslims then are islamist?

7 posted on 06/04/2007 11:58:05 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: tabsternager

Arab states uprooted 800,000 Jews. They could have easiy absorbed their fellow Muslim Arabs, but chose to keep them in refugee camps for 60 years in order to create rabid attack animals to use against Israel.


8 posted on 06/04/2007 12:12:18 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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9 posted on 06/04/2007 12:12:45 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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10 posted on 06/04/2007 12:20:42 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Squidpup; Alouette

I prefer the Yehoshu`a Bin Nun/Rabbi Me’ir Kahana’ peace plan, myself!


11 posted on 06/04/2007 12:21:00 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Ha'aretz 'asher `avarnu vah latur 'otah, tovah ha'aretz me'od me'od!")
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To: tabsternager

Get a brain. Open a history book. 600,000 Jews were booted from Arab nations.

+++++ Where do Muslims get off bitching about five million Jews in the Middle East when Muslims are invading Europe via immigration and explosive birthrates


13 posted on 06/04/2007 1:18:42 PM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Ah, there we agree.
14 posted on 06/04/2007 7:15:36 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug
Ah, there we agree.

I'm not sure Dennis Prager would agree with us.

The writings of Rabbi Kahana' (zt"l, Hy"d) are far more sound than those of Prager, btw (see Why Be Jewish? in which he tackles Biblical criticism).

15 posted on 06/04/2007 7:23:47 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Ha'aretz 'asher `avarnu vah latur 'otah, tovah ha'aretz me'od me'od!")
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Much as I like Prager, I've never given any credence to the so-called "palestinians" who are predominantly islamist arabs, no better than wild animals (with apologies to animals) that should be killed en masse.

How many Muslims are islamists?

16 posted on 06/04/2007 7:38:58 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug
Much as I like Prager, I've never given any credence to the so-called "palestinians" who are predominantly islamist arabs, no better than wild animals (with apologies to animals) that should be killed en masse.

That's for Halakhah to determine.

How many Muslims are islamists?

Don't know, don't care. It's a false religion, and mankind was forbidden by the Noachide Laws to create new religions. It is less idolatrous than chr*stianity (especially traditional liturgical chr*stianity), though. But it rejects the Torah while chr*stianity accepts it to a certain extent. Go figure.

17 posted on 06/05/2007 5:25:03 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Ha'aretz 'asher `avarnu vah latur 'otah, tovah ha'aretz me'od me'od!")
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To: onedoug

That happens to be a quote from Benny Morris, Israeli historian and Zionist. The 600,000 to 700,000 Palestinians isn’t my estimate; it’s from Israeli Defense Forces archives. In April-May, 1948, units of Haganah were given operational orders to “uproot villagers, expel them and destroy the villages themselves.”

Here’s a quote from Ben-Gurion himself:

“We must expel the Arabs and take their places.”

What Arabs do you think they meant? Perhaps the ones living in Palestine at the time?

Again, I wasn’t there and neither were you. Let’s not rewrite history and ignore actual accounts from Israelis themselves who were there.


18 posted on 06/05/2007 6:27:24 AM PDT by tabsternager
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To: tabsternager
“We must expel the Arabs and take their places.”

Would that they would. Absolutely.

19 posted on 06/05/2007 8:56:40 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Squidpup

Silly Bullshit!

Traction indicates that a “plan” has support or the potential for workability.
This is nonsense for the sake of nonsense.

The Arab/Islamic War against Israel and the West continues
unabated.


20 posted on 06/05/2007 9:01:04 AM PDT by Gideon Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American, and proud of it! Palestinians are,...well,... Palestinian.)
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