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New Anti-War Hero Admits to Violating Military Rules
NewsBusters.org ^ | Robin Boyd

Posted on 06/03/2007 2:42:02 PM PDT by SandRat

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To: verity

I have been retired 30yrs....But, when I completed my first Active Duty tour, I was issued a ‘Certificate of Service’ and the Honorable Discharge paperwork followed on completion of my required inactive reserve service.


21 posted on 06/03/2007 3:38:15 PM PDT by Jay Howard Smith (Retired(25yrNCO)Military)
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To: verity

His HD is still conditional as he still has/had a military obligation to finish in the Individual Ready Reserve at the time of his misconduct. As such, his HD can be downgraded administatively or at his insistance before a Courts Martial (if he’s smart he’ll take the administrative path as that will avoid it end much worse for him) to a Les Than Honorable. If he’d behaved himself until 72 hours after his last official day of his IRR obligation he’d have been finaly and fully discharged from the Corps and it would forever reflect such on his DD-214. Then if he wore the uniform to bring disgrace upon the military he’d get to face the Men In Black from the FBI for Federal Civilian Charges.


22 posted on 06/03/2007 3:42:27 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: verity; SandRat

The best info I’ve found on this set-to has been at The Tank on NRO:
http://tank.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTRlZmZiNTc2NzRjNDRhMGNhOTNkYjUwNWQ3MjA1NzE=

“Kokesh was honorably discharged from active service (before rolling into the IRR). He still has to be discharged (honorably or otherwise) from the IRR before his contract is fulfilled. Now a Marine Corps panel will decide whether or not his service is “honorable” or “other than honorable.” “


23 posted on 06/03/2007 3:43:40 PM PDT by Uriah_lost ("build bridges where you can - but draw lines where you must." -Fred D Thompson)
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I know not much about the Marines. I am an Army mom.

That said, it doesn’t take a whole lot of military experience to figure out that some like to talk the talk, but are clueless about actually walking the walk.

Save us from those who want their 15 minutes of fame!


24 posted on 06/03/2007 3:45:30 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: SandRat
I found the problem and it is a matter of semantics.

The governing regulation stipulates that a person is transferred to the IRR. There is no discharge.

Thus you are correct in that both the period of AD and the remainder of his obligation must be characterized as HONORABLE in order for an HD to be issued.

The remaining question is whether this incident will be adjudicated administratively or judicially. Should be interesting.

25 posted on 06/03/2007 4:18:23 PM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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To: verity
If he he offered an administrative option he should take it for if he demands Judicial before a Courts-Martial neither he nor the Silly Cybilian Laaa-yerr will like the outcome.
26 posted on 06/03/2007 4:21:24 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
You betcha.

BTW, I still favor the neutering option. lol

27 posted on 06/03/2007 4:26:56 PM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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To: verity

I’d prefer treatment from the old Chuck Conners TV show “Branded!”


28 posted on 06/03/2007 4:28:53 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: retMD

I just don’t get the VFW on this. They are adding to the circus. Hopefully my American Legion will stay out of it.


29 posted on 06/03/2007 4:57:47 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: SandRat

Freedom of speech is not a concept taught in boot camp, nor should it be. The military has ample reasons for its rules and regulations and they are not the same as the civilian ones.

I, and millions of other men and women gave up some of our rights voluntarily to serve in the armed forces. It was a priviledge to have done so for many years. The military cannot operate on individualism and long survive, and God knows, we must have a military that can face danger and win.


30 posted on 06/03/2007 6:17:39 PM PDT by billhilly (My former tag line.)
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To: SandRat
I am familiar with the reference.....which means we are both getting old...sigh!
31 posted on 06/04/2007 5:01:35 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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Yep and the TV show Rebel as well not to mention seeing Annette Funichelo as a young teen on the Black and White Mickey Mouse Club.
32 posted on 06/04/2007 4:53:01 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Wandering though past years.......Did REBEl star Nick Adams usin a chopped down .30-.30?


33 posted on 06/04/2007 7:22:58 PM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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To: verity

Yep!


34 posted on 06/04/2007 7:40:44 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Now if I could only remember what I had for dinner last night. ;-)
35 posted on 06/05/2007 5:19:22 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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