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To: RKV

Twice the stopping power. One-fifth the price.


10 posted on 06/03/2007 1:24:58 PM PDT by pabianice
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A friend of mine has one of these because both the gun and the ammo are not expensive. I have shot it, cool for plinkin’, but I forgot the name of it.


18 posted on 06/03/2007 1:46:08 PM PDT by Stayfree (*************************Get your copy of The Fred Factor by David Gill at Capitol Hill Comedy.com)
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You can get “black rifles” chambered for 7.62x39, and you can still have the ‘coolness’ of the “black rifle” and have the power of the AK. The mags aren’t as inexpensive and easy to come by though.


22 posted on 06/03/2007 1:52:37 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: pabianice
Not really double the power and half the price. The half the price part was correct. However, both of them are good short range calibers. If you want to reach out and touch someone long distance the 7.62-51 (.308) or the old 30:06 will do the job. However, if you want something almost as good, new calibers for the black rifle (need a new upper) in the Grindel 6.5 or the new 6.8 caliber will reach out and do the job and you can still carry a lot of ammo. The 6.8 will probably be the future of the black rifle.

At 100 yards the 7.62-39 123 grains is 1150 ft lbs and 2060 ft/sec.

At 100 yards the .223 62 grain is 911 ft lbs and 2572 ft/sec

28 posted on 06/03/2007 2:17:25 PM PDT by cpdiii (Pharmacist, Pilot, Geologist, Oil Field Trash and proud of it.)
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To: pabianice

One tenth the accuracy.


32 posted on 06/03/2007 2:37:02 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: pabianice

LOL for so many reasons ;)

“Stopping power” ?

I like my Romanian SKS, but it’s not even in the same league with any of my three AR15s.

Great handouts for the masses, though.


33 posted on 06/03/2007 2:39:09 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Here we go ;)
My photo server came back up.


42 posted on 06/03/2007 2:50:27 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: pabianice

Perfectly put. An AK or an SKS will do the same job, better and cheaper, and most certainly more reliably, in most instances.


58 posted on 06/03/2007 3:25:22 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: pabianice

DITTO. Poor man’s deer rifle. Rugged and battle tested.


67 posted on 06/03/2007 3:53:16 PM PDT by Fee ( R)
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To: pabianice
Twice the stopping power. One-fifth the price.

You just have to hope that nothing you want to shoot is ever more than 200 yards away.




(No offense intended... I own an AK ... it's just a question of the right tool for the right job...)

102 posted on 06/04/2007 4:33:47 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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Twice the stopping power. One-fifth the price.

The Simonov is a rugged carbine in a proven caliber, but it's crippled by a truly horrible trigger design. IMO, China's exporting its surplus SKS rifles was a devious attempt to destroy American marksmanship! ;-)

111 posted on 06/04/2007 8:15:01 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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