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To: LantzALot

the 4th amendment does not say that you are not required to have a valid license and proof of insurance in your posession and produce it on the request of a public safety officer while operating a motor vehicle on public roads.....yet this author attempts to invoke exactly that. Requesting lawfully required documents from someone operating a motor vehicle is NOT an “unreasonable search or seizure” - it is not a search....or seizure. It is a lawful request....in fact this request (license and proof of insurance) is the first thing any driver hears from a cop who pulls anyone over - it happens MILLIONS of times every day, everywhere in this country, and being an illegal alien is not an exemption, or at least it didn’t used to be.


21 posted on 06/02/2007 8:50:49 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I agree with you: driving is “a priviledge,” and you should be required to demonstrate you have earned that priviledge by becoming legitimately licensed — which means you should be able to produce that license when requested to do so by an officer of the law. But the officer’s request is still a “search,” and therefore subject to the Amendment. What is at question here is whether “probable cause” is being applied without prejudice.


23 posted on 06/02/2007 9:07:10 AM PDT by LantzALot (Yes, it’s my opinion. No, it’s not humble.)
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