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GOP base: Time to lock and load
WorldNetDaily ^ | June 2, 2007 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 06/02/2007 7:10:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee

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To: processing please hold

Check the internet for ammo, at last look several months ago, there were two suppliers (one in Florida, don’t remember the other east coast source). Granted, 1000 rounds of Belgian corrosive primers at about $200 may not be your thing, but I am sick and tired of paying $20-27 for a box of 20 at my local gun stores.


101 posted on 06/02/2007 10:44:29 AM PDT by Stayfree (Over 100 dead bodies lined the Clintons' first path to the White House...and now?)
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To: Travis McGee

Later read BTTT


102 posted on 06/02/2007 10:45:38 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (See HiJinx's tag line....then DO it!!!!)
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To: EverOnward
Good question. Is it another form of intimidation, degradation and humilitation via name-calling. I think it was Hitler who by degrading and intimidating the Jews, making them a "less desirable popultaion" which eased the way to disposing of them. Hitler used stages of degradation (a very useful tool) to bring about his goals.

Your right. It is another form of intimidation, degradation and humililation via name-calling. The poster "theFIRMbss" is doing just that, by lumping those of us (the majority BTW), who love our country and oppose amnesty for illegal aliens with the likes of David Koresh and Timothy McVeigh. That is a common tactic of supporters of illegal alien amnesty, to call opponents of amnesty racists, nativists, zenophobes, fanatics, etc.

Yes, you are also right about Hitler and the Nazis using the same tactics. It was Joseph Goebbels, who served as Reich Propaganda Minister under Hitler, who masterminded this tactic, I believe

103 posted on 06/02/2007 10:46:25 AM PDT by AmericaOne (Sneaking In is NOT Immigration!!!)
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To: NRA2BFree
I'm sick and tired of these liars and racists accusing us of disliking ALL Latinos. There are TWO groups of Latinos now in America. Latino Americans who have assimilated into our culture and are contributing to our society, and illegals. Latinos who are American citizens are decent people and are NOT the ones we are angry about. It's the Latino illegals.

elPresidente Boosh and his followers are causing much of the anger we are feeling toward illegals, because they are calling us racists and bigots. Making statements like Chavez just made only fuel the fire and could not be further from the truth.

Couldn't have said it any better myself. Great Post!

104 posted on 06/02/2007 10:50:35 AM PDT by AmericaOne (Sneaking In is NOT Immigration!!!)
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To: Stayfree
I gotta do something other than buy them from our local gun stores. I don't think my not buying them there will sink our local economy.

I'll go through the gun magazines in the bathroom, lots of ammo in them.

Thanks

105 posted on 06/02/2007 10:50:42 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: RichInOC
I’m talking about Pat Buchanan being more willing to use martial rhetoric against American Republicans than anti-American foreigners.

I'm so glad to know it's only Buchanan that's beating the Republicans like a pinata full of American dollars.

Maybe you haven't noticed nearly the entire base of Republicans have had it with this once great party and this president. Maybe you failed to notice what is happening right in our *own* backyards, that has totally escalated during a period of years the Republicans held power.

Just how much concern should Americans have about countries 7000 miles away, while they watch as America and their own towns become part of a third world, socialist country?

106 posted on 06/02/2007 11:01:54 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: AmericaOne
Couldn't have said it any better myself. Great Post!

Thank you, sir. Or should I say, "muchas gracias, senor?" LOL! IF I even said that right. I suppose I should learn, because the way things are looking, I'm going to need to know it. ;o)

107 posted on 06/02/2007 11:03:35 AM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Travis McGee
A bit off-topic, perhaps, but something I've observed that happened in the fading years of the Clinton administration as well as this one is the near perfect detachment of the political fantasyland within the D.C. Beltway from the clearly stated desires of the population at large. It isn't only Bush's base that objects to this approach to illegal immigration. The relentless media echo-chamber that place becomes seems to insulate all its inhabitants from any real feel of the country's political pulse. Clinton and Bush got where they did by being astute politicians, and here Bush is looking like a tin-eared rookie playing a kazoo in a symphony orchestra. Maddening.

Part of this is the power of organized lobbies - Linda Chavez's voice typifying the sort of thing that resounds within the Beltway like received truth. Part of it is the desire of a politician to leave a "legacy" that is contrary to the political currents outside the Beltway. That is the final result of the seduction of power, the temptation to lead rather than represent and the resulting necessity to use prod and whip when the led don't like where they're going.

It is lock-and-load time? I don't think so (and in any case I won't be sharing a foxhole with Pat Buchanan however correct he is on this topic), but it certainly is time to start stashing ammunition when we hear this sort of stuff from Bush's side of the aisle and "We're going to take things away from you for the common good" from the other side of the aisle. When we see Bush and Kennedy and Clinton all smiling together at the podium we are forced to admit that the problem's a real one.

The Republican party will survive this to the degree to which its adherents manage to reject Bush as its titular leader. I'm sorry to say that because I have a genuine affection for the man, but he's a lost cause now, IMHO, and I'm tired of defending him while hoping otherwise. If the D.C. political echo chamber manages to bully conservative - not just Republican - Congressmembers into acceding to this the Dems will be laughing all the way to the White House. About all we can do at this point is to insist repeatedly that our own representatives know where we stand on the issue. Violence is a last, horrible resort and we should quite rightfully be reluctant to employ it unless forced to in self-defense. Inside the Beltway that's a laughable fantasy. Outside the Beltway it isn't.

108 posted on 06/02/2007 11:04:31 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: NRA2BFree
Yep.. unbelievable, now Bush can join JJ and Sharpton as the new race baiter on the block.
109 posted on 06/02/2007 11:07:49 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America.)
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To: Travis McGee
"Some people just don't like Mexicans – or anyone else from south of the border. They think Latinos are freeloaders and welfare cheats who are too lazy to learn English. They think Latinos have too many babies and that Latino kids will dumb down our schools. They think Latinos are dirty, diseased, indolent and more prone to criminal behavior. They think Latinos are just too different from us ever to become real Americans..."

What does the empirical evidence show?

Look at California. Was life there better under the gringos, or is it better now under the Latinos/Mexicans? And how does the future look?

California isn't going to remain a part of "America" (at least the America I grew up in) for long. Nor will the rest of Atzlan. When they've destroyed that part of our country, they'll come to destroy the rest of it.

Pat's essay hits another one out of the park. And as usual, he's right, again.

- John

110 posted on 06/02/2007 11:11:42 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Billthedrill; Travis McGee
Violence is a last, horrible resort and we should quite rightfully be reluctant to employ it unless forced to in self-defense.

Way too late for that. This invasion is a violent invasion, and that violence has only escalated dramatically in the past decade. As a matter of fact, the numbers of dead and injured Americans number into the tens of thousands now.

111 posted on 06/02/2007 11:15:03 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Billthedrill
Excuse my jumping in here but, I saw the ‘lock-n-load’ phrase as figurative, not literal. Was I wrong?
112 posted on 06/02/2007 11:17:15 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: ProCivitas
ProCivitas writes:
I think I know what you mean. There's probably some 'tipping point' where cultural factionalism and ethnic balkanization so decrease a country's sense of identity that people's loyalty drops pronouncedly.

A very astute observation. It is a "cultural cohesion" that holds, that binds, people together (usually people of a like ethnicity and culture). When that cohesion evaporates, so does the sense of nation, of culture.

But, tell me: the "tipping point" you describe - are we there yet? or even past that point?

I'm beginning to think that we have just passed such a "tipping point", perhaps irrevocably.

Whether we can ever "get back to where we belong" will hinge on the fate of "immigration reform" (makes me cringe just to think that).

Honestly, it doesn't look good.

- John

113 posted on 06/02/2007 11:19:17 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Travis McGee
I've been "Locked and Loaded" for so long I'm going to have to replace all the springs in my clips here real soon!!!
114 posted on 06/02/2007 11:21:17 AM PDT by JDoutrider (Hunter/Thompson or Thompson/Hunter '08_Either way suits me just fine!)
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To: KC_Conspirator

“Just for the record, Pat is a POS.”

Is he wrong here?


115 posted on 06/02/2007 11:24:42 AM PDT by FredHunter08 (Boycott Illegal-Alien-Pandering Lowes!)
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To: backhoe

“A tale of two invasions”

Outstanding.


116 posted on 06/02/2007 11:24:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Fishrrman; ProCivitas
A very astute observation.

I couldn't agree more.

117 posted on 06/02/2007 11:25:46 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Billthedrill
"A bit off-topic, perhaps, but something I've observed that happened in the fading years of the Clinton administration as well as this one is the near perfect detachment of the political fantasyland within the D.C. Beltway from the clearly stated desires of the population at large. .... About all we can do at this point is to insist repeatedly that our own representatives know where we stand on the issue. Violence is a last, horrible resort and we should quite rightfully be reluctant to employ it unless forced to in self-defense. Inside the Beltway that's a laughable fantasy. Outside the Beltway it isn't."

I'm reminded of the leadership detachment in France in the 1770s, or Russia around 1916.

As we know, this level of detachment from the reality outside of the palace is not often followed by a happy time. Not for the rulers, or the ruled.

118 posted on 06/02/2007 11:29:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: theFIRMbss

That comment was so VERY uncalled for.


119 posted on 06/02/2007 11:31:13 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (See HiJinx's tag line....then DO it!!!!)
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To: B4Ranch

BTTT!


120 posted on 06/02/2007 11:34:40 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (See HiJinx's tag line....then DO it!!!!)
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