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Time to Split the Blanket
Townhall ^ | June 2, 2007 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 06/02/2007 5:31:20 AM PDT by oldtimer2

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To: oldtimer2

Pat was ahead of the curve on this issue.


21 posted on 06/02/2007 7:04:16 AM PDT by GOPJ (Import fruit, not illegal pickers.)
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To: Jim Noble
The German nation, in a more democratic way than most, brought all of its suffering upon itself,

Sort of like electing left wing Democrats to Congress and the White House? Remember that Nazi is a contraction of the German for National Socialists.

22 posted on 06/02/2007 7:07:58 AM PDT by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: oldtimer2

Linda Chavez’s words are disgraceful. She should apologize. She is as bad as (or worse than?) Don Imus. Her words should be repudiated by President Bush, Tony Snow, or someone else close to the President.


23 posted on 06/02/2007 7:09:26 AM PDT by ChessExpert (George Bush: Read my lips. It's not an amnesty bill)
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To: Enterprise
I need someone to explain how someone is unpatriotic because they oppose amnesty for criminals

Remembering of course that the crime in question is misdemeanor. Unlike the "crime" of having a loaded functional gun in DC, or failing to fill out the *federal* paperwork correctly, which IIRC are felonies.

24 posted on 06/02/2007 7:10:07 AM PDT by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Jim Noble

“The German nation . . . brought all its suffering upon itself . . .”

I don’t think the Germans were responsible for the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand - the Serbs were. The Germans supported their allies in WWI, the Austrians, in trying to hold the Serbs accountable. As a current day example, if a Iranian hit team assassinated the heir to the British throne, Prince Harry, and Britain attacked Iran in response, would we not also support our ally, Britain against Iran?


25 posted on 06/02/2007 7:21:34 AM PDT by Howard Jarvis Admirer (Howard Jarvis, the foe of the tax collector and friend of the California homeowner)
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To: cripplecreek; Jim Noble; oldtimer2; mkjessup
The irony of this situation is that Bush has staked his presidency on the war in Iraq but his obdurancy on the issue of immigration amnesty threatens to take away the last pillar of support for that war and leave Bush a legacy of defeat and the ignominy of being branded the worst Republican president in American history. Despite his recent victory on funding the war in Iraq, the left has moved considerably closer to taking away control of the war from him.

The base instinctively sees that, even if that vision is presently inchoate, there is a moral as well as an intellectual repugnancy between Bush's policies in Iraq and on the border.

Contrary to the pervasive belief among leftists around the world, America does not seek to wage war where its vital interests are not at stake. The gravamen of the justification for the war in Iraq was to prevent Saddam Hussein from trading petrodollars for weapons of mass destruction which he could then turn upon us or pass off to terrorists groups who would in turn inflict them on us on a scale more ghastly than 9/11. Why fight and die in the barrios of Baghdad to protect America from WMDs when it took only 19 terrorists to bring down the World Trade Towers? Are there not 19 more terrorists in the world ready to smuggle a couple of nukes across the Mexican border? Have we in any sense made ourselves safer in this regard? Most thinking people would conclude that we have not. They would conclude, there cannot be any risk or surely we would have closed our own borders!

If there is a risk, Bush has been stunningly irresponsible in failing adequately to police the borders. So egregious is his misfeasance that the government admits to 12 million illegals on the loose some where in our midst! The number is more likely 20 million. Whatever the number, how can one have confidence in a Commander in Chief properly to wage war in Iraq when he has been so demonstrably inept at home?

If there is no risk, why are we fighting and dying in Iraq?

Our military force in Iraq is made up mainly, although not exclusively, by the sons of the lower middle class. While these boys sacrifice their lives or their limbs in Falluja, their economic prospects are daily diminished by a swelling tide of illegal immigrants taking their jobs and compromising their prospects, including their hopes for a college education. While they suffer unnecessarily because our government cannot treat them adequately in places like Walter Reade, illegal immigrants are succored cost free by a virtually every hospital in our land. Preoccupied with worry about their wives at home trying to feed the kids with food stamps, our soldiers learn that illegal immigrants are given every advantage of our social net. Eventually, our troops, their mothers, and their wives must be asking themselves, who are we fighting for?

A nation's sovereignty is utterly dependent on the integrity of its borders. One of the tests of international law is the ability of a nation which makes claim to being a nationstate to control its own borders. No borders, no country. George Bush has placed us in an anomalous position in which we are fighting and dying to create sovereignty for Iraq while we are indifferent to the erosion of our own.

A military worthy of the name is a culture based on a code. The code is comprised of honor and the rule of law. These things when adhered to yield pride and courage. So important is the sense of the rule of law to the military, that it has its own code of military Justice. We are learning that elections alone in Iraq are not enough to establish a viable and stable democracy, there must be a rule of law. The United States of America is undertaking simply to forget about the rule of law as it applies to 12 million or more criminals within its borders. When will the soldiers ask, "how can we simply turn on and off the rule of law?" Most of the illegal immigrants come from the land of the mordida where bribery is institutionalized as part of the very tradition of life. If you are stopped by a policeman in Mexico, he may be wearing a uniform, but he is eager to accept a bribe. This is not a culture of the rule of law, it is a culture which is repugnant to the code of the military. It is utterly contrary to the very image we are trying to establish for the police in Iraq. How soon before our military ask, "are we not the biggest of hypocrites?"

Our reserve and guard forces are liable to call up and to extension of service commitment and to multiple assignments in the Iraqi theater of war. They volunteered for these risks. But how long will it be before they ask themselves, "why must I returned to Iraq for the third time and spend many months away from my family and risk the loss of my life or my limb, when 12 million criminals in America are simply given the fruits of everything I am fighting for just because they broke the law? Why are they not compelled to serve?"

These repugnancies will eventually wreck support for Bush's war. He has only himself to blame.


26 posted on 06/02/2007 7:53:37 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: webstersII

Don’t worry, the speckled Bushbot is a species on the verge of extinction. George Bush himself is killing them off, one by one.


27 posted on 06/02/2007 1:12:03 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: Puddleglum

Ninth paragrapg: Some Americans don’t like Mexicans, etc.
I don’t
I don’t like any of the those from south of the border. For all the reasons listed here and many, many more.

The final straw for moving from my (almost paid off) home in So Calif was because of the ever-greater numbers of illegals swarming the corners and the parking lots. I no longer felt safe, and I couldn’t carry a weapon with enough ammo to get them all at one time without re-loading. Tooooo many of them.
When I am forced to put bars on my windows: Am I protecting my property or am I making myself a prisoner????


28 posted on 06/02/2007 1:31:16 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles
When I am forced to put bars on my windows: Am I protecting my property or am I making myself a prisoner????

That's a keeper.

Your original?

29 posted on 06/02/2007 2:47:48 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: webstersII
You Bushbots are out early this morning.

LMAO, THIS, coming from the same clown who in the very next line, starts whining about 'name-calling', oh that's rich!

Try actually engaging in a discussion instead of just name-calling.

There's no need. Pat Buchanan's many diatribes provide more than ample evidence for the fact that he jumped the shark many moons ago, or did you forget about his overwhelming landslide victory as the presidential candidate of the (har har) Reform Party?

Yesss, the Buchanan Administration went down in history.

James Buchanan that is.

PS - I'm no 'BushBot' sparky, 'BZZZZT' wrong answer.
30 posted on 06/03/2007 2:18:01 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Popman
Try listening to Pat in the original German, and you'll reconsider that notion.
That's a low blow
Pat may be accused of many things, but being fluent in German isn't one of them. : )

He's NOT?!? I could have sworn I heard that familiar Bavarian rolling of the 'R's in his inflections, lol
31 posted on 06/03/2007 2:19:41 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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