Posted on 06/01/2007 5:41:16 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
However, now I do not feel alone. Peggy Noonan has a new column up in the Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal. She has clearly said what has been getting me down. I think I knew what was up, but couldn't put a finger on it. I knew it centered around the immigration debate, and the way our congressional leaders are behaving. That sentiment especially includes Mr. Bush too, but when I read this column, I felt like Charlie Brown yelling at Lucy at her Psychology booth when he yells, "That's it!" when trying to identify why he can't get into the Christmas spirit.
Try this clip on for size :
The White House doesn't need its traditional supporters anymore, because its problems are way beyond being solved by the base. And the people in the administration don't even much like the base. Desperate straits have left them liberated, and they are acting out their disdain. Leading Democrats often think their base is slightly mad but at least their heart is in the right place. This White House thinks its base is stupid and that its heart is in the wrong place.
For almost three years, arguably longer, conservative Bush supporters have felt like sufferers of battered wife syndrome. You don't like endless gushing spending, the kind that assumes a high and unstoppable affluence will always exist, and the tax receipts will always flow in? Too bad! You don't like expanding governmental authority and power? Too bad. You think the war was wrong or is wrong? Too bad.
But on immigration it has changed from "Too bad" to "You're bad."
The president has taken to suggesting that opponents of his immigration bill are unpatriotic--they "don't want to do what's right for America." His ally Sen. Lindsey Graham has said,
(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...
Congress exists to pass laws.
What laws, not already existing in the US Code in 1994, do you think Congress should have considered to help with this problem?
Newt the other day was hammering GW for immigration. I will not allow him to rewrite history or sit back and let people defend him either. He had his opportunity and it was not a priority for Newt or most freepers here because this issue was not even a blip on the screen. This issue should have been handled in the 90’s when we had the first conservative majority in Congress in 40 years. That was the time to do it or from 2002 to 2006 when we controlled Congress. There is no defending Newt on this issue. He kicked the can down the road for someone else to deal with, like Clinton did with terrorism. Newt FAILED, like Clinton FAILED. Now GW needs to deal with both. I am no fan of the current bill but I am a realist about the type of bill that will pass Pelosi and Reid.
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You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth. You’re not a fan of GW and you’re not even a fan of the republican party. everybody knows that sakorsky’s defeat of the liberal woman in france was the writing on the wall for hillary. you’re not fooling anyone.
Thank you very much rom, I appreciate that.
Most people objectively question what the president does all the time. It seems an abandonment of basic principle not to.
And btw, if you haven't come to an opinion about the war based on objective questioning at this point in time, then you do your country a disservice.
Think the GOP establishment got everything they wanted out of 2006 and will out of 2008. They are unwilling to actually govern as conservatives and are throwing the game to return us to perpetual minority status. From this position they can once again pretend to talk conservative, raise more money and yet blame everything on President Clinton, all the while, laughing at us behind our backs.
It's a good question. I do suspect that there are interior enforcement problems in the matter of identification by employees of illegals.
Newt should have made resolving those problems and building a fence a part of his contract.
He didn't.
Barnacle:
Because the protected thread would be DESTROYED if taken over by the likes of you.
Speaking of that thread called A Day in the Life of President Bush. It’s there for a specialized reason. People who want to see what the MSM does not let us see about each day in his life as President. Where does he go? What does he do? What does he say? What photos are available? Details. Details.
The MSM mostly hates the President. So do you and most of those who would want to crash that thread and destroy it. On that thread, whether pro or con his positions on certain issues, they can enjoy news about their President, his administration and his family.
I thank JR and the moderators for allowing it. What harm can it do, with the rest of FR turned over to you and your ilk. There’s also a prayer thread for him which I don’t go to but I understand it was crashed and trashed.
How sick. And how revealing of you to resent those tiny enclaves you can’t destroy.
Your answer is up.
I feel the same way too.
rom:
I didn’t feel any beating. I knew from the get go that he butchered what he was attempting to say, and went into detail on that in two of my prior posts.
And you and Noonan must love beating dead horses. It’s him whose been battered down to nothing. Have fun.
It’s the easiest path to take. The way is wide open, provided by conservative pundits and your fellow freepers. But it began with the MSM, the radical left and the Islamic extremist enemy and people like Hugo Chavez.
All now melded into one seething hate Bush mass.
He didn’t say that. Or mean it, either. But who cares, right? It’s much more fun to hate him with all the fury in your guts as if he really did. That is, if you’re some people. Me, I’d rather.......not.
Congress has NO ROLE in law enforcement.
Existing laws are perfectly adequate to find, detain, and deport all illegal aliens, and to prevent their return.
Congress has NO ROLE in law enforcement. Existing laws are perfectly adequate to find, detain, and deport all illegal aliens, and to prevent their return.
Please no strawman fallacies. Nowhere do I say that Congress carries out law enforcement.
What I did say is Newt's Congress should have voted for the funding of a fence. What I also did say is that there are additional laws that Newt's Congress could have passed that would have made employer identification of illegal aliens more fool proof.
Newt, did neither.
And btw, if you haven't come to an opinion about the war based on objective questioning at this point in time, then you do your country a disservice.
Well, aren't you on a high horse? A little too high to hear anything someone a lowly as I would have to say in response, so I won't waste the time.
FreeReign:Most people objectively question what the president does all the time. It seems an abandonment of basic principle not to. And btw, if you haven't come to an opinion about the war based on objective questioning at this point in time, then you do your country a disservice.
Well, aren't you on a high horse? A little too high to hear anything someone a lowly as I would have to say in response, so I won't waste the time.
Barnacle, read your above post. It was you who was on a high horse. I just responded in kind.
If you don't like it, then don't do it.
Yes, to worship a sitting President.
Have you designed a crown for him yet?
And how revealing of you to resent those tiny enclaves you can’t destroy.
I have no interest in "destroying" it. I just think that I should be able to post legitimate criticism of him there.
Dear Great and Objective One who Does Great Service to His Country by Holding an Opinion,
Did I say that I haven't had an opinion. No, I said I am questioning Bush. In other words, I'm looking at him form a new perspective of someone who deserves much less faith than I've placed in him in the past. I've been questioning, evaluating, examining, contemplating, hypothesizing , debating, ascertaining information all along.
But, know I have serious reason to doubt the source of information.
Bush can go pound sand. I supported that jerk at the protests in 2000 and then I campaigned for the SOB in 2004 only to have him turn around and call ME unpatriotic because I don’t support illegal immigration? F*** him.”
Ypu have certainly expressed my feelings, and I suspect, you are doing so for a great number of members here.
Thank you.
Calling us “unpatriotic” for not wanting to be swamped by masses of uneducadable people who are carrying diseases we have eradicted in this country, and offering them health care, “jobs”, schools, etc, is a total expression of disdain for the American citizen who has done it right, paid their own way, and stayed out of trouble.
We don’t deserve to be punished by the influx of the illegals, nor to be called “unpatriotic” in the process.
You weren’t called that. But by now, the hate bandwagon is on too big of a roll to bother about it.
When Peggy’s right, she’s way right!!!
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