[SierraWasp]

"let the whole thing collapse"

Can you imagine the grinding poverty and reconstruction efforts that would take decades to even begin?

I like your second idea better, but you'd have to split off ALL the coastal counties as their constituents are all liberal in the vast majority.

Idealy, even those counties touching salt water and seafaring ports such as the entire Bay Area, San Jaquin and Sacramento counties should all go with "Coastal California" and the rest to the new and improved "Sierra Republic!"

Poor calcowgirl doesn't like this idea cause it would split her off from the new and improved 51st state, but I guess she'll just have to move and crash the border like so many are doing to the present CA part of the USSA!!!

[calcowgirl]

Watch it, SW!

I’m in one of those salt water places! Don’t you go abandoning me!
(I have no problem if you want to jettison Malibu and Santa Monica, though!)

[calcowgirl]

LOL. You got me so riled I didn't even finish reading to catch this part of your post:

Poor calcowgirl doesn't like this idea cause it would split her off from the new and improved 51st state, but I guess she'll just have to move and crash the border like so many are doing to the present CA part of the USSA!!!

The only problem with moving is I can't bring the great Pacific Ocean with me! I've been staring at it since the day my mom brought me home from the hospital and put me in a crib next to the window with a full view of its beauty. With everything that is happening to this country, just staring at the ocean is the one thing that brings me great peace of mind. If we're going to stay and fight for our country and California, why won't we fight for this beautiful part of it, too? I mean, it's not all about the Sierra!

[chaos_5]

San Diego is costal, and with the exeption of La Jolla and National City, its a red state, LOL

[tubebender]

but you'd have to split off ALL the coastal counties as their constituents are all liberal in the vast majority.

AHEM...