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What Mexico Wants (Surgeon General Warning: May Cause Vomiting)
The New York Times ^ | June 1, 2007 | Jorge G. Castaneda

Posted on 06/01/2007 10:31:41 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084

Mexico City

NO nation is as involved in United States immigration as Mexico, and no government’s cooperation will be as necessary as Mexico’s if immigration reform is to succeed.

Fortunately, most of the reform proposals represent a very good deal for Mexico, however questionable they might appear to the Latino community in the United States. The current Senate package greatly resembles what President Vicente Fox and I proposed back in 2001, in meetings with President Bush and former Secretary of State Colin Powell.

First, the Senate plan would legalize almost all of the roughly six million Mexicans in the United States today without papers. This will allow them to get better wages and working conditions, to become eligible for mortgages and driver’s licenses, to travel back home and to have an immensely better everyday life.

Yes, the road to citizenship is a long one — up to 13 years — but that is essentially an American issue. We Mexicans cannot encourage or discourage our fellow countrymen from seeking naturalization.

Second, the bill provides for a guest worker program that will include several hundred thousand Mexicans: exactly what we always wanted. The requirement that they return home for a year after working across the border for two, while cumbersome and perhaps unenforceable, would actually help Mexico. It would ensure the continued flow of money back to workers’ families here; and the returning workers would bring the skills they acquire in the United States to demonstrate to others and use to start businesses here.

And as for complaints that these guest workers could not take their families with them, the roughly 75,000 Mexicans who legally emigrate to the north every year can’t do so either.

There are three Mexican objections to the bill as it stands.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; crimaliens; identitytheft; idtheft; illegalimmigrants; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invaders; mexico; pom
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Jorge G. Castañeda, Mexico’s foreign minister from 2000 to 2003 weighs in. Why not just make him a US Congressman while we're at it.

Jorge G. Castaneda (D-Mexico City)

1 posted on 06/01/2007 10:31:44 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084
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To: Eric Blair 2084

There are three Mexican objections to the bill as it stands........Only three?...Get in line!


2 posted on 06/01/2007 10:34:17 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Eric Blair 2084

“Why not just make him a US Congressman while we’re at it.”

You mean ours aren’t Mexican Congressmen?


3 posted on 06/01/2007 10:34:50 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Eric Blair 2084
and the returning workers would bring the skills they acquire in the United States to demonstrate to others and use to start businesses here.

Bridge for sale!

4 posted on 06/01/2007 10:35:04 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Eric Blair 2084

There are three Mexican objections to the bill as it stands.
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No REAL AMERICAN gives a flying F*** what Mexico thinks of OUR legislation. Send all of them back home where they belong and build the DOUBLE fence. And use plenty of constantina wire too....


5 posted on 06/01/2007 10:35:26 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Eric Blair 2084

What do Mexicans call their white elites, “blancos?”


6 posted on 06/01/2007 10:36:44 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: Eric Blair 2084
almost all of the roughly six million Mexicans in the United States today without papers

Just six million? What's all the fuss about?

7 posted on 06/01/2007 10:37:30 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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...to become eligible for mortgages and driver’s licenses

eligible??? They already get these whether they are eligible or not.

...several hundred thousand Mexicans: exactly what we always wanted.

Since when did we "always want" them?

8 posted on 06/01/2007 10:38:34 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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First, the Senate plan would legalize almost all of the roughly six million Mexicans in the United States today without papers.

Six million? I've already heard the number 12 or 20 bantied about. Does this mean we have his royal permission to issue only six million Z-Visas? Do we get to pick which six?

9 posted on 06/01/2007 10:38:36 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

After reading the whole article, it appears that the main complaint is not enough guest worker will be allowed. This fellow will only be happy with no caps on any type of entry (open borders).


10 posted on 06/01/2007 10:39:05 AM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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To: Wings-n-Wind

PING=4 Later


11 posted on 06/01/2007 10:40:07 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (Are t)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Here are Rep. Jorge Castaneda’s (D-Tijuana), 3 objections to the bill currently in the legislature of a country that he is not a citizen of. Apparently he thinks he can threaten to veto it if he doesn’t like it...............

“First, it has unduly harsh enforcement provisions at the border and the workplace, which will undoubtedly generate abuses and mistreatment. Still, if every Mexican in the United States who arrived before Jan. 1, 2007, is legalized, enforcement inside the United States, including discriminatory raids, will become redundant. And if nearly everyone who wants to go north can obtain a guest-worker visa, there will be no need to cross illegally and face rough treatment at the border.

A second objectionable feature is the steep fines and fees in the Senate bill: up to $5,000. While this is not cheap, it’s also not much more than the “coyote” charges to smuggle a migrant across the border.

The last objection is more substantive; it is, in fact, a potential deal breaker. The Senate voted last week to cut the number of guest worker slots to 200,000 from 400,000. The earlier figure would have allowed roughly the same number of workers who now cross illegally to obtain guest status. But if the final law has too few slots, it will not end illegal immigration, but simply perpetuate the status quo.”


12 posted on 06/01/2007 10:40:19 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: VR-21

Thanks for the imput Jorge. From an American standpoint, your entire country is the continental equivalent of a hemorrhoid.


13 posted on 06/01/2007 10:45:06 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: YellowRoseofTx

The guy who’s saying “we” is a Mexican.


14 posted on 06/01/2007 10:45:26 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

It really gets pathetic doesn’t it when a third world hack politico from a cesspool like Tijuana thinks he can put two thoughts together and anyone will even care?


15 posted on 06/01/2007 10:45:39 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: EagleUSA

I guess Mexico is now unofficially the 51st state and this guy thinks he is one of the two Senators in the new delegation.


16 posted on 06/01/2007 10:46:27 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


17 posted on 06/01/2007 10:47:07 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

He’s not really from Tijuana, I just made that part up. All I know is he is not from America and he doesn’t get a vote on this.


18 posted on 06/01/2007 10:47:37 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

That’s o.k....I can just fill in the blank for any Mexican town.


19 posted on 06/01/2007 10:48:51 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: EagleUSA

I like your ideas, would you run for President?


20 posted on 06/01/2007 10:49:44 AM PDT by Plains Drifter (I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it!!!)
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