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US-Sunni Alliance In Iraq Taking Shape
US News & World Report ^ | June 1 2007

Posted on 06/01/2007 8:19:23 AM PDT by ASC2006

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To: ruschpa

The Sunnis are Islamist idiots.

The Sunnis want us in Iraq to protect them from Iraq.


21 posted on 06/01/2007 9:34:49 AM PDT by ASC2006
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To: ASC2006

Something like this has to get going so we can get going and let them live in their $@@@hole in peace.


22 posted on 06/01/2007 9:35:56 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: ruschpa; ASC2006

Asc2006, I think you mean protect them from Iran.

This is the reason why the Sunnis in Iraq eventually will remain aligned with us. They are scared to death by Iran and the Shia majority. They maybe don’t have genuine love or sympathy for us. But as long as there is the Iranian threat, they will need us and we will need them.


23 posted on 06/01/2007 9:40:14 AM PDT by SolidWood (Save America: Thompson/Hunter 2008)
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To: SolidWood

Yes, I meant to say Iran.


24 posted on 06/01/2007 9:47:33 AM PDT by ASC2006
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To: ruschpa; jveritas; elhombrelibre; ASC2006; SolidWood
ruschpa wrote: "After they kick Al-Qaeda out of our region they’ll do whatever it takes to kick us out including killing our soldiers there."
We must keep in mind, the Sunni tribes in al Anbar have signed onto the deal. They will no longer appose American forces in the future, and will participate in the democratic process of voting in the future.
If the other Sunni tribes throughout Iraq take a similiar stance, in hopes of getting in on future oil revenues, then the whole nature of Iraq for the better will have been obtained. In short the original plan in essence.
25 posted on 06/01/2007 10:33:46 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: Marine_Uncle

Agree.


26 posted on 06/01/2007 10:42:39 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

I don’t think people understand how pro-American shiek Sattar actually is. He is as pro-American as Talibani and he is smart too. He could be our Sunni Talibani if we keep backing his movement.


27 posted on 06/01/2007 10:46:20 AM PDT by ASC2006
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To: ASC2006

That is excellent to know ASC2006.


28 posted on 06/01/2007 11:07:25 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

Let me put it this way. Shiek Sattar is the only Iraqi politician with both an Iraqi and American flag in his office.

Even Talabani in his office has a Kurdish and Iraqi flag.


29 posted on 06/01/2007 11:11:14 AM PDT by ASC2006
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To: ASC2006

Yeah, I figured that the Shia would strive for a Sharia nation, but felt that they, as the “liberated” ones, would readily embrace a free Iraq with the Baathists gone. The Sunni benefited from Saddam (as much as was possible anyway).

Al-Qaeda knew that the divisions were deep, and they played on that, so that Iraq may become lawless and provide them safe haven. It is the new Afghanistan for them.

Iran is not interested in sharing a border with yet another democratic country, so they are pouring money and violence in to keep it unstable. Both the Sunni and Shia have taken the bait from Iran and AQ.

Yes, the Sunni of Iraq are much more interested in cars and bazaars than they are into Allah’s strict ways. That is why Al-Qaeda, a Sunni fundamentalist group, is having to import it’s fighters, since Iraq’s moderate Sunni don’t hate America.

As I have said before, we won the “Iraq War” when we overthrew Saddam. The aftermath has just been an extension of the General War on Terror, and I believe that by planting another democracy in the heart of Babylon and killing lots of Al-Qaedas, we will be delivering a serious blow to both Iran and Osama.

I wonder if that was the whole plan from the beginning: to battle both Iran and AQ in the same place, at the same time, while creating conditions in the region that will make terrorism an unacceptable practice. Did Bush know?


30 posted on 06/01/2007 11:34:05 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: jveritas
I agree with you jv.

There is still going to be tremendous pressure put on the forces and the administration by many folks who think we measure sucess by how many American are killed or wounded. Why there is also pressure by many on this db who don't seem to understand why we are making ceasefire peace deals with and why.

I just wish more people would follow Bill's comments and updates at billroggio.com or the comments at Iraqthemodel.blogspot.com

31 posted on 06/01/2007 11:43:13 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: hawkaw

The good news is that President Bush is a great Leader who only does what he think is right and will not follow polls or pressure to end the war before we win.


32 posted on 06/01/2007 12:24:58 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: ASC2006; jveritas
I cannot help but agree fully with your conclusions. Sattar could very well enter the political fray with so much future support that he may get voted into some top leadership position in due time.
Perhaps I am being very pre-mature, but I think the tide has turned to the point where free thinkers in Iraq with some or a lot of power can start to rebuild Iraq into something far greater then it was prior and during the butcher's reign.
The oil issue simply cannot be ignored. The biggest carrot for peace and prosperity in Iraq is sitting under their soil.
I sense this Shiek understands Iraq could become the jewel of the ME. Alongside Israel, a complete model of independent governance as well as a becoming a solid industrialized nation. In short. The hell with the 7th century cult and in with the modern western style of governance and social responsibilities.
33 posted on 06/01/2007 12:25:58 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: ASC2006

WOW!!! I did not know this. We should have a 100 of our brave troops protecting this brave man.


34 posted on 06/01/2007 12:26:11 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: tg75

Perhaps of interest to you.


35 posted on 06/01/2007 12:27:40 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: jveritas; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; Cap Huff; Coop; Steel Wolf; elhombrelibre

The most significant local ally of Coalition and Iraqi government in Anbar province — and surely in all of Iraq — is Sheikh Abdul Sattar al-Rishawi. He is a powerful Sunni from Anbar province, and, on Iraqi national television, he pledged his allegiance to Prime Minister al-Maliki and to the democratically elected Iraqi government.

In an overt and televised gesture of his determination and solidarity with the Iraqi government, Sheikh Abdul Sattar sliced the palm of his hand with a knife and proceeded to pound the blade into the table before him. “Sattar said, “The time for dictatorship is gone, and we are welcoming the new dawn of democracy and freedom here.”

http://www.aina.org/news/2007042594726.htm

(Some interesting quotes about Shiek Sattar)

Now, “If you talk to these sheiks, they’ll tell you that they’re in no hurry to see the Americans leave al-Anbar,” “One thing Sheikh Sattar keeps saying is he wants al-Anbar to be like Germany and Japan and South Korea were after their respective wars, with a long-term American presence helping ... put them back together,” MacFarland said.

“The negative example he cites is Vietnam. He says, yeah, so, Vietnam beat the Americans, and what did it get them? You know, 30 years later, they’re still living in poverty.”

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=42745&archive=true

“Sheikh Sattar is authentic to his culture, supports the tribal system in the confines of democracy, and despises al Qaeda in Iraq,” said Colonel John A. Koenig (USMC), the head of the II Marine Expeditionary Force G-5 (Governance and Economics), in a recent interview. Sheikh Sattar is also described as both a nationalist and a friend of America. “In Sattar’s office, there are two flags - one is Iraqi, the other American.” Sattar, according to Col Koenig and other sources in the military and intelligence establishment, wants to build a nationalist, non secular party.

http://tinyurl.com/32tp7q


36 posted on 06/01/2007 12:41:29 PM PDT by ASC2006
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We should have a 100 of our brave troops protecting this brave man.

We are. There are two American tanks protecting Sattars fortified Residence.

37 posted on 06/01/2007 1:01:19 PM PDT by SolidWood (Save America: Thompson/Hunter 2008)
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To: SolidWood

I am glad to hear this SW.


38 posted on 06/01/2007 1:05:30 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: ASC2006
Thanks for clearing things up regarding the good Sheik.
Bashar must be crying in his beer at this point. How things have come around.
39 posted on 06/01/2007 1:10:30 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: ASC2006
"...basically making them second class citizens in the country they ruled for hundreds of years."

Ummmm.........are you sure about this? I know they 'ruled' during the nightmarish Saddam Hussein decades, but.....hundreds of years? Not saying you're wrong, but......?

40 posted on 06/01/2007 1:30:01 PM PDT by RightOnline
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