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To: NucSubs
Where? I'd like to see that for future reference.

Here you go...

TAQIYA

8 posted on 06/01/2007 10:24:35 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961

Thanks. Best explination I have seen yet.

Still seems like a stretch though. It’s only Shia’s for one thing, not Sunni’s like Al-Qaeda.


10 posted on 06/01/2007 11:01:05 AM PDT by NucSubs (Rudy Giuliani 2008! Our liberal democrat is better than theirs!)
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To: Publius6961

Lying for Allah is okay, according to the eminent Islamic scholar Imam Ghazali, who wrote:

” When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible “ (Ref: Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller , Amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745).
Imam Ghazali does not say this without knowledge. He is basing his fatwa on the words and examples of the Prophet himself.
In one hadith we read that the prophet calls upon his followers to assassinate Ka’b ibn Ashraf, the chief of a Jewish tribe who was wary of Muhammad and tells them it is okay to tell a lie to deceive him. Bukhari, Volume 5, #369
The fact is that Muslims feel no pang of conscience to lie if that lie is said for Allah’s sake and his religion. If the lie is said for a good cause it is okay.
(...) Muhammad said: “Lying is wrong, *except in three things: the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him; a lie to an enemy, for **war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble between people” (Ahmad, 6.459. H).

(...) *Islam is the only religion that implies in it’s scriptures that it’s ever permissible to lie.


14 posted on 06/01/2007 11:35:01 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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