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To: Ramius

That is true but there are poeple on this thread that support cheating in helping themselves to another’s internet access.

Just like those that defend the cheaters who download copyrighted material without paying for it.

I think the article is highly related to the issue of declining respect for private property.

What do you think, do those who provide “free” internet access make it harder or easier for cheaters?

Is cheating on the upswing or downswing?


378 posted on 05/31/2007 9:49:42 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
I think the article is highly related to the issue of declining respect for private property.

This article has nothing to do with that. There's yer problem raht ther...

This article is about a badly written law being horribly mis-applied to the wrong situation by an overzealous prosecutor. And a judge apparently too dumb to know the difference.

382 posted on 05/31/2007 10:39:37 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: dynoman
That is true but there are poeple on this thread that support cheating in helping themselves to another’s internet access.

I see the problem here. You're acting as if this guy had been piggybacking off his neighbor's wireless access point. While I might still argue that the neighbor was (perhaps through ignorance) volunteering such service, you'd have a better point there.

But this guy didn't do that. He went to a public place that ~offered~ free wireless access to the public without restriction, and used it as it was intended.

Different situation entirely.

385 posted on 05/31/2007 10:57:10 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: dynoman
You’ve skipped right over the point that this was the state acting as if that signal belonged to them in pressing charges against the defendant. The actual owner of the signal couldn’t have cared less about this guy logging on.

I get what you’re saying about “screw the other guy,” but in this case, the defendant is “the other guy.” He’s getting screwed by big, stupid, unresponsive, unthinking government - how can you possibly defend that?

This kind of thinking dovetails with something that is happening in the immigration debate. The RINO’s want to frame it as a measure that will support business, because they know that conservatives typically support business. Same here - The minute you buy into the thought that this is a “property rights” issue, the statists have you trapped in their web.

Keep in mind, true conservatism doesn’t care about results, just the process. This is why you can have statists on both the left and right - The state is merely a tool to achieve a set of ends.

I can tell that the “property rights” gang are a pretty well read bunch, to their great credit. But they need to “check the premise” that is their starting-off point on this issue...

393 posted on 06/01/2007 6:22:07 AM PDT by Loyolas Mattman
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