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About Those "Skyrocketing" Gas Prices
Creators Syndicate ^ | Thursday, May 31, 2007 | Larry Elder

Posted on 05/31/2007 3:41:52 AM PDT by IrishMike

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To: ChurtleDawg
that $.59 actually goes to providing and maintaining all of the roads and bridges in that state
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Sounds like a ponzi scheme to me. That’s what they initially said about tolls.
I read somewhere where the 1st toll in the nation for roadways was the George Washington Bridge between NY and NJ and tolls were to pay for the construction of the bridge. Tolls paid for the construction, and at the time the article was written a few years ago, tolls paid for the construction 17,000 plus times.
Another public entity was expanded, the Port of Authority of NY/NJ, - an animal that needs constant cash.
Just like state lotteries, for the children - supposedly the lottery funds go towards education.
Another farce......
Monies are budgeted towards education by the various states. “Lottery’ profits are then deposited in the education budgets, and original budgeted funds for education are diverted to general fund - monopoly money for politicians.
141 posted on 05/31/2007 9:27:23 AM PDT by IrishMike ( What happens when aliens breed with sheep ? - Democrats)
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To: itsamelman

RBOB gasoline $2.22. Looks like freefall now. Bad time to invest, but selling short is an option.


142 posted on 05/31/2007 9:30:08 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: IrishMike
What about those "skyrocketing" housing prices in California & Florida (well, up until last year)? What about those skyrocketing advertising prices that the networks charge for ad time during the super bowl? What about those skyrocketing prices that plumbers charge on holidays?

It's all gouging, I tell you! /sarc

Despite the socialist's best efforts, supply and demand still rule the market always. The leftist government has done everything it can to screw up the supply side of the oil market, and now they're whining because limited supply is causing a price rise. They need only look in the mirror to see the cause of high gasoline prices. They put every conceivable barrier up to block drilling off-shore and in ANWR, and they have successfully blocked the construction of numerous refining plants. And now they whine when the market does exactly what markets do when demand is high relative to supply.

143 posted on 05/31/2007 9:38:01 AM PDT by meyer (RNC, DNC, two sides of the same coin.)
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To: Londo Molari

well, how are people going to use less when they have to drive to work? That’s a little silly. And the author compares the oil profits to google profit but we don’t need google to get to work. The huge profits that big oil is making by increasing the prices so much is not right. How come other commodities such as food don’t do such a dramatic swing in prices? And if you do a search on high mileage gas vapor patents you will find that the oil companies own a bunch of them as do the car makers. There has been collusion on both of their parts to make sure that high mpg technology hasn’t gotten mass produced so as to keep their profits sky high. The finances of both of them are intertwinned. There just simply is not a fair market when it comes to car fuel...if there was you would see many cars being made to use alcohol and gas and many low cost alcohol stations as well as high tech mpg improvements on all cars. Mr. Pogue was an engineer in the 1930’s and he was able to get 205 mpg’s using his vapor carburetor. He quickly bacame a multimillionaire and sold out his patent rights. Of course, his invention never got produced. I don’t think they are evil...just short sighted greed.


144 posted on 05/31/2007 9:42:08 AM PDT by fabian
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To: Paladin2
What ever happened to self reliance and personal responsibility?

Oh, they don't teach that in public schools any more. Haven't since the '60's.

145 posted on 05/31/2007 9:44:51 AM PDT by meyer (RNC, DNC, two sides of the same coin.)
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To: meyer

Like the post, and the tag line.


146 posted on 05/31/2007 9:47:02 AM PDT by IrishMike ( What happens when aliens breed with sheep ? - Democrats)
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To: kellynla
I can’t count the number of times I and “thackney” have posted the gasoline costs & taxes in EVERY STATE on FR.

The information is available, but it isn't made easily available. Compare your gasoline receipt to one from, say, the phone company. The phone bill will gleefully itemize the 25-30% added taxes and fees on each monthly statement, while your gasoline receipt merely gives you the price, amount of gallons, and total cost, with no mention of taxes, fees, or other government-induced costs.

147 posted on 05/31/2007 9:48:01 AM PDT by meyer (RNC, DNC, two sides of the same coin.)
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To: meyer

“The information is available, but it isn’t made easily available. Compare your gasoline receipt to one from, say, the phone company. The phone bill will gleefully itemize the 25-30% added taxes and fees on each monthly statement, while your gasoline receipt merely gives you the price, amount of gallons, and total cost, with no mention of taxes, fees, or other government-induced costs?”

You can file your complaint with your local elected representatives...
this office is Closed. LOL


148 posted on 05/31/2007 9:54:25 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: LantzALot
I wonder how much of these “obscene” profits that oil companies show at times of rising prices are due to the reevaluation of inventories at the higher matket prices.

Product in storage is not profit. It is an asset for accounting of net worth but profit requires revenues from sales less expenses. Increasing or decreasing assets only effect profit when they are sold.

149 posted on 05/31/2007 9:58:13 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: meyer

I wonder if they could easily reprogram the systems to show that... Might make for an interesting little bit of information on the receipt.


150 posted on 05/31/2007 10:06:08 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: taxcontrol
There is the possibility to convert your vehicle to dual use by adding propane or CNG. You can even put a CNG refill station in your home.

My Baja Bug is set up to run on gasoline, alcohol, propane or CNG. Very easy conversion and all the parts are readily available and inexpensive.
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151 posted on 05/31/2007 10:06:58 AM PDT by radioman
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To: Red in Blue PA

——Awhile back I recall hearing that gas stations only earn 1 to 2 cents per gallon......now I see even an oil apologist labels profit margins as 8-10%. Wonder what they REALLY are?——
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Why just take the word of someone unknown on the internet. Spend just a few minutes and you can look up the profit of any of these publicly traded companies.

2006 ExxonMobil
$39.5B profit on $365.5B revenue, 10.8% profit
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/34088/000119312507042435/d10k.htm#fin59931_2

1st Quarter 2007 ExxonMobil
$9.2B profit on $87.2B revenue, 10.6% profit
http://library.corporate-ir.net/library/11/115/115024/items/242049/1Q07_Earnings_Press_Release.pdf

2006 ConocoPhilliops
$15.5B profit on $183.7B revenue, 8.4% profit
http://www.conocophillips.com/newsroom/news_releases/2007+News+Releases/012407.htm

1st Quarter 2007
ConocoPhilliops
$3.5B profit on $41.3B revenue, 8.6% profit
http://www.conocophillips.com/newsroom/news_releases/2007+News+Releases/042507.htm

And just for comparison purposes in 2006 ExxonMobil spent $20B in new infrastructure and exploration. The spent $97B in taxes and duties.


152 posted on 05/31/2007 10:07:18 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: ClaireSolt
Almost all of the famous profits of Exxon were lost when Chavez nationalized oil co property worth $30b

Venezuela is paying for those assets. They are just arguing over the price. Venezuela wants to pay what was invested in them. ExxonMobil claims in today's market they are worth a lot more. I would agree with ExxonMobil, if those facilities were not located in Venezuela. Like any real estate value: location, location and location.

153 posted on 05/31/2007 10:10:09 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: sauropod
it is a balance between economics, housing availability, housing affordability and desire

Then you gambled on low fuel cost to buy a better home farther from work. You guessed wrong. That last one desire is actually the overriding one. I have co-workers who live in small apartments and walk to work. That is not my choice, but I don't make the claim I have no choice in needing large amounts of gasoline driving my 4x4 SUV out of town each day.

154 posted on 05/31/2007 10:15:16 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
Increasing or decreasing assets only effect profit when they are sold.

True, but if a company maintains low enough levels of inventory, the sale may occur while the price is higher than when the inventory was purchased. And not all the "sales" transactions are to John Q. Intercompany transactions would be recorded as "sales." The media will scream at the profit the selling company took, and overlook the bath the purchasing company took.

(Again, I haven't looked it up, just theorizing.)

155 posted on 05/31/2007 10:16:27 AM PDT by LantzALot (Yes, it’s my opinion. No, it’s not humble.)
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To: IrishMike

Gore didn’t actually win an Oscar. I believe the director did.


156 posted on 05/31/2007 10:16:38 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Red in Blue PA
And gas and oil is run by an OLIGOPOLY, not a true free market where anyone can come and sell their wares

There are over 60 companies refining oil into gasoline into this country. There are more than 100 domestic oil producers, a couple hundred importing oil and other petroleum products. Many of these are small independents. I don't understand the claim that the market is not competitive when these smaller operators have been in it for decades.

157 posted on 05/31/2007 10:20:19 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: IrishMike

Years ago, USA Today used to show market updates in near upper left portion of paper. NOW, they show gas prices.


158 posted on 05/31/2007 10:35:29 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Stop the ethnic cleansing of American citizens. Save America, Congress!)
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To: thackney

Exxon, BP, Shell, and a few other own the oil industry. This is, by definition, an oligopoly.


159 posted on 05/31/2007 10:39:14 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: PghBaldy

USA Today ......
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Too liberal for the dodo at the bottom of my bird cage.


160 posted on 05/31/2007 10:44:37 AM PDT by IrishMike ( What happens when aliens breed with sheep ? - Democrats)
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