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US on mad cow disease: Don't test all cattle
AP ^ | May 20, 2007

Posted on 05/30/2007 12:41:36 PM PDT by Shermy

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From March:

Judge: Government must allow meatpackers' tests for mad cow

The federal government must allow meatpackers to test their animals for mad cow disease, a federal judge ruled Thursday.

Creekstone Farms Premium Beef, a meatpacker based in Arkansas City, Kan., wants to test all of its cows for the disease, which can be fatal to humans who eat tainted beef. Larger meat companies feared that move because if Creekstone tested its meat and advertised it as safe, they could be forced to do the expensive test, too.

The Agriculture Department currently regulates the test and administers it to less than 1 percent of slaughtered cows. The department threatened Creekstone with prosecution if it tested all its animals.

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Last July, the department cut its testing by about 90 percent. Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns said testing should reflect ‘‘a very, very low level'' of the disease in the United States. ......

1 posted on 05/30/2007 12:41:39 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Enterprise; A. Pole; Diogenesis; traviskicks

If I oppose Bush on this,

will he label me that I,

“don’t want to do what’s right for America.”

??


2 posted on 05/30/2007 12:46:01 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Larger meat companies feared that move because, if Creekstone tested its meat and advertised it as safe, they might have to perform the expensive test, too.

i.e. our competitors might actually gain a competitive advantage.

3 posted on 05/30/2007 12:46:06 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Shermy

If a small private meat packer wishes to test their animals, then, what is the governments beef?

One is led to ask, what are we trying to cover up here? As long as the packing house pays for the tests, then it should be free trade. This has an appearance of restraint of trade.


4 posted on 05/30/2007 12:47:31 PM PDT by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: Shermy

Count me in as someone completely against Bush on this. Government again sticking its nose where it doesn’t belong. If a company wants to voluntarily test — let it. The market will decide which steaks to buy.


5 posted on 05/30/2007 12:48:09 PM PDT by Tulane
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To: Shermy
This has been working its way through the Judaical system since at least 2003. I was working in Kansas at the time when this plant was being built. The USDA had a fit, because if they let this plant test all the cattle, it would be demanded of every packer.

And the results probably wouldn’t be what the industry wants.

6 posted on 05/30/2007 12:48:11 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Shermy

Does anybody know? Do the Chinese import any beef from us? If so, test EVERY cow ONCE and ship EVERY false positive, positive, straight to China. I’m willing to pay the additional costs for one test/cow if they do that.


7 posted on 05/30/2007 12:48:20 PM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: Shermy

I guess JORGE is a little pissed after the 2006 elections. Or he is pissed after the sheeple are giving him flack over amnesty. Either way, Jorge is pissed.


8 posted on 05/30/2007 12:48:37 PM PDT by mirkwood (Let an electrician check your shorts.)
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To: Shermy
In a free market economy if a business offers the customer an additional benefit for the same price they have an advantage. The consumer wins. The creative business wins.

Here’s the rub: The United States agriculture system is not a free market. It is a fascist system which limits competition, keeps inefficient producers in business, and increases the cost of food to the consumer.

And here’s another dirty little secret: Most Americans love this real world application of fascism.

9 posted on 05/30/2007 12:53:58 PM PDT by live+let_live ("God is a mathematician with an eye for art.")
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To: Shermy
The Agriculture Department regulates the test and argued that widespread testing could lead to a false positive

I believe that what they fear are accurate, not inaccurate, test results.

But there is no reason to worry. We can trust the government to keep our food and pet food completely safe.

10 posted on 05/30/2007 12:58:06 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Shermy
Q: Why is PMS called PMS?

A: Because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.

11 posted on 05/30/2007 12:58:30 PM PDT by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: Shermy

This is so insane that
El Presidente and the head of the Agencies that
fight this reasonable Order should put up their
own families fortune and homes as collateral if any
case of BSE occurs in America. Then, they should
be tried for murder, accomplice before the fact,
as each and every person thereafter dies.

[oh, that’s right, they have sovereign immunity and can
murder the very Americans that put them in Office
with impunity. THAT is why there is no border security
and no care about poisons-du jour from China]


12 posted on 05/30/2007 12:59:23 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Shermy
Mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy, is linked to more than 150 human deaths worldwide,

How many deaths from illegal immigrants here in the USA? Where's the response?

13 posted on 05/30/2007 12:59:43 PM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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To: Concho
Testing an animal under thirty months of age, which is the vast majority of North American beef cattle, is the equivalent of testing a pre teen for Alzheimer's

BSE is a nuerological disorder in the same family as scrapie in sheep, CDW in elk and deer, and ALS in humans.

The incidence is at the level of a genetic disposition.

14 posted on 05/30/2007 12:59:56 PM PDT by slapshot (""USAF- when you absolutely, positively need it delivered on target, on time, right away)
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To: Concho

What are they trying to cover you, you ask?

Well, here’s a start:

The large meat packers have been rabid about opening the Canadian border to both cut/boxed beef (ie, processed in Canada) and live Canadian cattle, despite how many cases of BSE have been found in the Canadian herd. The Canadians have a real problem in the number of backgrounders and feedlots using banned feed.

The American herd probably has better quality and so far, has show less BSE instances than the Canadian herd.

The big packers, in their quest to keep the American consumer quiet and ignorant of the real issues with their food, is seeking to prevent:

1. Complete testing of all cattle going down the kill line.
2. Closure of our border to cattle imports, whether processed or live.
3. Prevention of someone else who implements a testing program that shows the problems in the agenda of the big packing houses.

Now, there’s a delicious irony here: Our Asian trade partners have been keeping their markets closed to US beef (processed meat, ie, the cattle are slaughtered/cut here and boxed) because we don’t have a 100% testing program. If the big packing houses implemented a 100% test program, Japan and S. Korea would re-open their markets to us in a fat hurry.

The US government has utterly and completely failed both the US consumer and the US cattle producers (ie, cow-calf operators) in allowing the concentration of cattle slaughter into six packing houses that control over 90% of the beef market. It is quickly approaching monopoly status, and no one seems interested in doing anything about it.


15 posted on 05/30/2007 1:02:12 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: umgud

Good Lord. This is a serious thread discussing a serious issue. Can’t you try an hijack another one?


16 posted on 05/30/2007 1:02:15 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Shermy

The feds will probably complain if food distributers start testing the chinese junk they sell too.

We do not want to panic people by letting them know what they are really eating do we? We do not want Companies to point out the shortfalls of the FDA and CDC do we?

Congress motto :Let them eat cake ( made with contaminated flour from China )


17 posted on 05/30/2007 1:02:29 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: slapshot

No.

ALS is a degenerative disease.

BSE is prion bad-crystallization.

The incidence is not known.

Your metaphor to teen-Alzheimer’s is not appropriate.

What do mean by “The incidence is at the level of a genetic disposition”?


18 posted on 05/30/2007 1:07:07 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: slapshot

Yes, the test would be redundant on most beef steers, which are slaughtered at about 1100lbs and 24+ months.

Where it would benefit us is the meat that goes into hamburger:

- gummers
- bulls with, uh, broken business equipment (I’m trying to keep this polite)
- dairy cattle that are 6+ years old and done as dairy cows.

Believe it or not, that’s quite a lot of cattle. They don’t do into boxed cuts or steaks, they’re typically ground for burger.

Doing 100% testing might not all that useful on steers, but 100% testing would re-open our export markets for US beef. If that’s what the customer wants, then that’s what we should do.


19 posted on 05/30/2007 1:07:11 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave

“It is quickly approaching monopoly status, and no one seems interested in doing anything about it.”

Because they pay a lot of campaign bribes and there are many “conservatives” who think monopoly is a good thing because they’re part of the cult of big business adulation.


20 posted on 05/30/2007 1:08:25 PM PDT by Shermy
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