Posted on 05/30/2007 11:07:49 AM PDT by avacado
It wasn’t a pointless post. I simply wondered why anyone is surprised that amnesty is going to become US law when the Republicans are a minority in both Houses.
You mean the same way he was honest when running for president about having a humble foreign policy and no nation-building like Clinton did in Kosovo?
Bush is denying he that he supports amnesty and denies that this bill is an amnesty - like father like son - when his lips are moving you know he is lying. Bill O’Reilly says that this bill will turn the U.S. into a one party Democratic state (Venezuela, anyone? Read Ann Coulter’s analysis) Who should we trust, Bush or our lying eyes?
We have no need for 2 liberal parties in this country.
If the Republican party is banned to eternal minority status for this and OTHER issues, then they get exactly what they deserve.
I will never support Liberals
Period
Not now
Not ever
and I damned sure won’t support liberal or democrat-lite
So tell us, then. We voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 despite his stance on amnesty in order to keep the Dems out of the White House.
But now we are being told to shut up, Bush was for amnesty all along. We're just supposed to put some ice on it.
That's a load of crap. If you had ANY integrity, you would realize that amnesty is a political disaster for the GOP, and you should be demanding that Bush respect the will of a large section of his base and realize they did NOT vote for him because of his amnesty stance, but despite it.
I simply asked what did you expect with the Republicans in the minority. Good conservative people like Congressman John Culberson may as well go home and watch TV!
I love how they keep telling us and Tancredo, etc. that we should have ‘compromised’. Compromise? What has been done about illegal immigration by the ‘powers that be’? NOTHING.
That isn’t a word Bush ever heard of, unless he’s talking about DEMOCRATS, he’s more than happy to ‘compromise’ with them.
Now the GOP will have neither power or the ability to sell out the USA.
Your political party of choice did not learn the lesson of 2006, so they will have to be spanked again.
To whine "you should have known" does not justify selling out the entire country and every conservative that voted and supported you.
Maybe for you, but not for me.
He said his "immigration reform" would not be amnesty. Even now he claims this bill is not amnesty. Yet it clearly is.
So, no, he was not honest about this.
I just caught you in a logical contradiction. So I can see why you think I add nothing, since your own brain is too addled by Bush worship to realize your own logical failings on this thread.
All political parties go through cycles of building up power, squandering their mandate, losing touch with their base, being defeated, then rebuilding according to their core principles, and winning elections again. Why should the Republican Party be any different?
Well Bush`s secret is out. All this time we thought he wanted to merge the US into Mexico but now we know he really wants to give the country to Hugo.
You and jveritas are a tagteam...right.
But then you turn around and say that Bush was for amnesty all along, and we voted for him anyway, so why are we so against him now?
Which COMPLETELY undermines your earlier spin. Pure duplicity on your part. We did what you believe in, we voted for him despite his flaws in this department. But all you can do is turn around and demand we stop making a big deal out of this.
And then you'll probably call us one-issue voters or unappeasables or some other mindless slur.
Time to use the 2nd Amendment as a reset button for the Constitution.
Wrong! He was for a "guest-worker program." The only time Bush ever mentioned the word "amnesty," was in the context of:
"My proposed guest-worker program is not amnesty."
And, all evidence to the contrary, he is still claiming this bill is not an amnesty.
This bill still has massive problems, but it isn’t passed yet. It will improve before it is passed, and I hope it improves enough to be better than nothing. I am not very optimistic about that, since we have a record of not enforcing what we pass, and any bill this huge will have loopholes which will be exploited by the illegals and their helpers.
Now that we have voted Democrats into power, I’m don’t see how we get any good legislation passed.
I would be happy for now with a serious bill on border control.
I don’t think that is accurate. Pres Bush wants this. Have you seen the threads re the new NORTH AMERICAN UNION? They have already designed a flag and figured out where the new 12 lane hwy that will stretch from Canada to Mexico will go. Cheap labor for American businesses. The Texas businesses have already weighed in on this-they want the amnesty because they will have a large pool of cheap workers available to them.
That is the real question - what happens to America? Just look across the oceans, at the Middle East and South of the Border.
Not hard to figure out.
I won't argue the semantics of it, but Bush has been very open about worker permits and a pathway to citizenship. He was vocal about it as Governor of Texas. His position is no surprise. What I am surprised about is that some conservatives are surprised that with a Republican minority in both Houses that amnesty is going to become U.S. law. It should have been obvious. I knew after the 2006 mid-terms that amnesty was a done deal. Without the Republican majority in both Houses amnesty was guaranteed!
I agree with you that Bush wanted this. I am arguing, why is anyone surprised, given Bush’s position, that amnesty passed when we have a minority in both Houses.
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