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Recreational Boats Considered a Homeland Security Threat
firstcoastnews.com ^ | 05/28/07 | jackelyn barnard

Posted on 05/29/2007 6:47:28 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

JACKSONVILLE, FL -- The Memorial Day holiday means it's a day on the water with the family.

Chuck Singleton does what he can to makes sure his kids are safe out here. The concern is who else is out there.

"You don't know where they come from," said Singleton. "You know, they could load up with a bomb or whatever and come right out here."

With thousands of boats on the waterways, the worry is the recreational boat is now a Homeland Security threat.

"Just the sheer numbers and ability to hide among recreational traffic is something that makes it difficult for me to find the threat and address it," said Admiral Thad Allen, Commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard.

A simple boat could be used as a weapon.

"Just the fuel, this has 85 gallons in this boat and that's bomb itself," said Singleton.

The head of the U.S. Coast Guard is throwing around a couple of ideas on how to keep you safe.

One would require licenses for all boaters in all states.

The other would call for transponders on recreational boats so authorities can track their location.

"Anything to improve our coast and help everybody out, we need to do it. We just have to get control over this. I think it would be a good idea," said Singleton.

Those against the licensing or the use of transponders believe the Coast Guard needs to set up a small perimeter, a safety zone, in areas of concern, so small boats can't get into certain areas.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Florida; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coastguard; homelandsecurity; recreationalboats
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To: takenoprisoner

Did you watch the video? God save us from those who say they want to save us.


61 posted on 05/29/2007 9:05:36 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3

There’s obviously way too much money in the Homeland Security budget when they’re talking about putting transponders in canoes and kayaks.


62 posted on 05/29/2007 9:06:10 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Homeland Security: Recreational boats are a national security risk, but open borders and amnesty are not.

The job of "homeland security" is most appropriately handled by our armed forces who are in the business of thoroughly kicking the ass of anyone who would make us less secure.

Not domestic spymasters.
63 posted on 05/29/2007 9:07:54 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: TornadoAlley3

The world is upside down .

The REAL threat is all those Americans that own boats or fly on aircraft, not the millions of overstayed visa we can not tract or the millions flowing over our porous border.

Soon every citizen will have to put a government camera in their home so big brother can watch us.

Personally I am sick of this !


64 posted on 05/29/2007 9:10:29 AM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: TornadoAlley3

What if it’s a plane with pontoons, then what?????


65 posted on 05/29/2007 9:11:53 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: HangnJudge
Bingo.

Terrorism isn’t about things.

It’s about people. Evil people.

Counter terrorism is not an exercise in stopping things, darn near anything can be used to create mayhem.

It is an exercise in awareness, in knowing who the enemy really is and what he or she really looks like. It is an exercise in seeing, evaluating and reporting precursors to events.

Why else did the the flying imams try to chill citizen reporting of suspicious behavior?

66 posted on 05/29/2007 9:12:49 AM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: Romulus

They do hate us for that, but that is ironic. We shouldn’t let them win in this way. Can’t we be free and without a jihadist threat?

I’m not entirely sure that’s possible sadly.


67 posted on 05/29/2007 9:14:17 AM PDT by Tolsti
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To: Tolsti
They do hate us for that, but that is ironic.

9/11 happened here, not in Switzerland or Sweden. Freedom has nothing to do with it.

69 posted on 05/29/2007 9:23:18 AM PDT by Romulus (Quomodo sedet sola civitas plena populo.)
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To: Dixie Yooper

Being a Great Lakes boater, I must tell you how ridiculous the US/Canadian border is in relation to your suggestion. We frequently, and know many other boaters, who make the trip North to Canada via Lake Erie into the Detroit river. Upon arrival at any marina in Canada, one simply calls in to customs, gives registration numbers, boat name, etc, how many persons O/B and how long will the boat be in Canadian waters. It gets more laughable when a boat returns to the US, it simply returns.......no call-ins, nothing. Incidentally, we have never been check-boarded by the Coast Guard nor do we know of anyone who ever has. We simply re-enter the US mid way through Lake Erie. The Muslim population in Windsor, Canada, across the river from Detroit is about 40% and be assured they are not friendly.


70 posted on 05/29/2007 9:24:04 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: TornadoAlley3
Actually, recreational boats are not a Homeland Security threat.

Recreational boats piloted by Middle Eastern Muslim terrorists are a Homeland Security threat. Should be easy to spot those if Homeland Security is interested in looking.

71 posted on 05/29/2007 9:25:54 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: F15Eagle
dangerous on a level most Americans ... simply do not understand.

Mind boggling, isn't it?

What's worse, maybe I can understand Joe Schmo in Kokomo not getting it, but the geniuses in Congress simply have to understand that it is only by the grace of God, and the courage of the passengers on flight 93, that they personally weren't murdered on 9/11.

And they still do all they can to help militant islam. Huh? Hello???

The Founding Dads did an incredible job in forging a constitution. They anticipated and countered every threat to Liberty they could, and it was enough for centuries.

Perhaps it will be enough for a few more centuries, or so I hope.

72 posted on 05/29/2007 9:31:19 AM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: TornadoAlley3

License

A permission granted by competent authority to engage in a business or occupation or in an action otherwise unlawful.

Since when did boating or travelling by water become illegal in the United States?


73 posted on 05/29/2007 9:35:02 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (The Republican Party's continued idiocy, proves the TV Series, Lost In Space, was a documentary.)
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To: bikerman
remember the USS COLE?

So you see a lot of Arleigh Burke class destroyers in your local lake do you? Some people need to get a life and quit listening to the scare tactics. After 6 years of this nonsense, I imagine there's a portion of people that believe 24 is real too....

74 posted on 05/29/2007 9:35:05 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: TornadoAlley3; Jeff Head
Hey Jeff,

It looks like someone has been reading Dragon's Fury.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

76 posted on 05/29/2007 9:35:36 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: oldfart

The plane into building idea was floating around in the sixties and was reported to Nixon in 1969 in an investigation into the terror underground. Someone tried to hijack a plane out of Baltimore (I think) in the early seventies with the aim of hitting the WH.

Nuke power plants and large dams are our biggest vulnerabilities. If Lake Powell “surged” to the Gulf of CA I imagine it would take Mead along with it. Maybe we should lower the impounded water levels a bit until Islamofascism is wiped out.


77 posted on 05/29/2007 9:37:29 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: F15Eagle
They’ve been studying us for a long time. And they’re cunning and resourceful. As you suggest, we must not underestimate them.

You know what I'd do if I were you? Get your whole family together, go back down in that shelter you built for Y2K and stay there. Someone may or may be along in a possibly reasonable amount of time to let you know it's all over (depending on if anybody remembers to drop by).

Sheesh, what if, what if, what if? What if the terrorists used the Goodyear blimp to attack a football game?!? Oh wait that's been done hasn't it? OMG, Hollywood was giving terrorists ideas 30 years ago!!

78 posted on 05/29/2007 9:40:33 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: HangnJudge
It would easy enough to load the hull of our houseboat with fuel oil / urea mix, seal it, float it up to the dam, and detonate the bomb.

you mean ammonium nitrate don't you? Urea is neither an explosive nor an oxidizer. Second if you blew up your boat boat on the top of the dam, then you'd have a loud noise and the dam might lose some guard rails - the dam would be unhurt. Blowing up a dam is a very difficult proposition becasue they are very large tough structures - this was tried during WWII and it took very special bombs and delivery systems to damage a dam.

This is just another load of alarmist crap from the government to scare the bedwetting public into giving up more freedom.

79 posted on 05/29/2007 9:45:43 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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