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To: Pietro
"What does "science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions" mean? It sounds like somebody wants to censor scientific research where it does not agree with a particular religious belief."

If you want to find out the potential for censorship, just look at the various creation "science" organizations on the web, and see what their approach to science is. Here is a typical one:

Tenets of Scientific Creationism of the Institute for Creation Research

If this group, or those who believe as they do, were to be put in charge of science, I do believe censorship would be the result.

The Discovery Institute's "Wedge Strategy" outlines the way they intend to replace materialistic science with theistic science. (And it isn't through scientific research.)

265 posted on 05/31/2007 11:39:07 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
Thanks for reposting the "wedge" again I went back and checked it as its been a while since I've read it the first time (courtesy of you again).

Anyway, I'm sorry but what those guys are proposing is first research and real science. If there's no real science behind their theory then its a dead issue. Their goals of replacing "materialistic" science w/ an alternative can only happen if the science they uncover is actual science. There ultimate goal is a debate; not a new inquisition.

Their disdain of the current "materialistic" science stems, I think, from the aggressive nature of some to use that philosophy of science as a bludgeon against religion. The Discovery Institute, imo, is a direct response to Richard Dawkins et al that would outlaw religion tomorrow if they had the chance. Personally, I don't see science as a threat to religion, sadly however, many in the scientific community see religion as a threat to science which is, I think, unfounded. Remember that in past generations, when religion in the US was every bit as prevelent as it is today, we as a nation led the way in scientific discoveries.

Finally, concerning the "Creation Science" thing in your post; in the first place those folks have no chance of being anything other than a fringe goup and secondly, if in some small rural community they happened to get a member voted on to the school board, even there, they could not stop the teaching of classic science ie evolution, physics, chemistry etc, etc. the most they could do is have a sticker placed on a biology book. You give these people far more credence than they deserve.

272 posted on 05/31/2007 12:39:59 PM PDT by Pietro
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