[Dinsdale]

Choosing to ignore something or not research it because it's too difficult or can't be explained NOW is foolishness and the the height of arrogance and an impediment to science.

Best synopsis of creationism/ID I've heard yet. I bet you didn't mean what you said.

The problem you have is that EVERY thing that has previously been labeled supernatural that has been studied to a reasonably complete understanding (rain, thunder, seasons etc etc) has been found to have a natural explanation. The fruits of this research is generally good.

The point is that saying 'god did it' is not a decent explanation. From a scientific point of view it's just a cop out.

Things held on faith (sans evidence) should be kept private. Otherwise intractable arguments in sue. For example there are three versions of the 10 commandments, which do you want in your courthouse? (Protestant, Catholic or Hebrew versions?)

[metmom]

So you agree that science shouldn't investigate anything that some scientist somewhere has written off as supernatural? Nice way to avoid any inconvenient subjects that just might throw a monkey wrench in science's naturalistic belief system.

The problem you have is that EVERY thing that has previously been labeled supernatural that has been studied to a reasonably complete understanding (rain, thunder, seasons etc etc) has been found to have a natural explanation.

Exactly the reason that science shouldn't blow off anything it doesn't understand.

Yet, here we have scientists with the attitude of "Oh, it's *supernautral*. How stupid." Not the best way to make progress.

[metmom]

Choosing to ignore something or not research it because it's too difficult or can't be explained NOW is foolishness and the the height of arrogance and an impediment to science.

On the contrary, it's science/scientists who are putting the limits on what qualifies to be investigated.

The creationists/IDers want science to look at it and all we get is the mantra, "But it's noooot sciiiieeeeence."

Creationists/IDers aren't the ones fighting it. They think the evidence is there. Scientists have written it off for no good reason that I've ever heard.