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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
I think you nailed it in your post--though you didn't quite state it.

Science, without a Judeo-Christian underpinning forming an ethical foundation, quickly degenerates into studies in eugenics, euthanasia, and the like.

History, without a Judeo-Christian underpinning, quickly degenerated into Nitsche, which led directly, though in bifurcated fashion, to Marxism and German National Socialism.

Nitsche leaned heavily on Darwin, and once God was taken out of the equation of life, there seemed to be no sense to it all, so Freddy Nitsche claimed it was about survival of the fittest (shades of Darwin?) and Hitler killed off the cripples and weak in society (shades of Darwin?). National Socialism was simply applied Darwinism, and by its moral yardstick, killing off the weak is NOT morally wrong--by its standard. But by a Judeo-Christian one, it IS.

Just a thought. Interesting how Darwin --> Nitsche --> Marx --> Hitler! A continuous line of applied thought.

Moral of the story: Keep God in politics, history, national holidays, tradition, or you move into either a Soviet- or Hitlerian-godless society, with all the consequences.

...and no one wants to live like that. Look where it led.

Judge an ideology by its own fruits.

SAURON

100 posted on 05/28/2007 11:58:26 PM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: sauron
National Socialism was simply applied Darwinism, and by its moral yardstick, killing off the weak is NOT morally wrong--by its standard.

Yeah, it's a jungle out there, that's for sure.

But don't blame a perversion of a concept upon the original version. You'll get yourself into an untenable Oedipal conflict, i.e., since the father had sex with mom, so will the son. "Applied Darwinism," has nothing to do with Darwinism, except as practiced by those who perverted the original example.

105 posted on 05/29/2007 12:14:30 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: sauron
National Socialism was simply applied Darwinism,

While you're playing Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon with Darwin, have you got any quotes from Mein Kampf that indicate Hitler had the slightest inkling who Darwin even was?
109 posted on 05/29/2007 12:32:48 AM PDT by omnivore
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