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Change on Immigration Turns Senator Kyl Into Lightning Rod
The New York Times ^ | May 29, 2007 | Michael Luo

Posted on 05/28/2007 5:25:38 PM PDT by Baladas

WASHINGTON, May 25 — Angry calls poured into Senator Jon Kyl’s office this week by the thousands, expressing outrage beyond anything he said he had witnessed in his 20-year political career. The callers were inflamed by Mr. Kyl’s role in shaping the bipartisan immigration compromise announced May 17, which lawmakers continue to debate.

“Yes, I have learned some new words from some of my constituents,” Mr. Kyl, an Arizona Republican, said at a news conference on Thursday, drawing titters from those in the room.

Mr. Kyl, 65, who garners top ratings from conservative groups every year, is the unlikely lynchpin to the fragile alliance of Democrats and Republicans trying to push the sprawling immigration bill through the Senate.

An ardent foe of the immigration bill that passed the Senate last year but was later stymied by House Republicans, Mr. Kyl is seen as essential to attracting conservative Republicans to the new proposal. As his party’s conference chairman, Mr. Kyl is the third-ranking Republican in the Senate and a fervent spokesman for conservative principles.

Although the bill’s backers have praised Mr. Kyl for his political courage, his about-face was not ushered in by either a high-minded refusal to demagogue on the issue or a conscious summoning of historic compromises from the Senate’s past.

A technocrat who has labored in Arizona in the shadow of his much more visible colleague, Senator John McCain, Mr. Kyl has traditionally shunned the spotlight and worked behind the scenes immersed in the details of legislation. It was that affinity for working in the trenches on policy, and pragmatism about the art of legislating, that led him to become a legislative partner of Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat who has been a major voice for immigration overhaul.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; corporateblackmail; deafrino; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; kyl; s1348
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To: Witchman63

If they “convert” the ilegals, then the next wave will begin.


21 posted on 05/28/2007 6:00:50 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: TheZMan

By hook or by crook, these guys are going to pass it. It has been mandated by the shadow gubmint, and by it’s frontman, GWB.


22 posted on 05/28/2007 6:02:50 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge.)
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To: Witchman63

All of the current illegals that are made legal will go on the public dole, and start importing their relatives, and a new crop of illegals will take their former jobs.


23 posted on 05/28/2007 6:03:58 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: grey_whiskers

What about the Soros illegal alien line:

1-800-417-7666


24 posted on 05/28/2007 6:05:32 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: Baladas
“Hard working” “Jobs Americans won’t do’ etc. ALL BS. An American of Japanese decent wrote a book recently (forgot both names) and was in yesterday’s NY Times, Their point - 7.5 million of the “hard workers” had jobs! They omitted the other side - 5.5 million aren’t working, are on welfare or are tax cheats and expect U.S. to pay!

They lament the high ($5000) fine! The clowns will file and get the money from “earned income” credits etc. After that out tax money is all theirs. I am not as mad about condemning IRS as others because it is CONGRESS that makes the laws. In essence, IRS has been turned into a welfare agency for those who work off the books, are on welfare, etc. etc.

Soon, soon, very soon, we will have “millions of Americans” below the poverty level and WE WILL PAY FOR THESE ILLEGALS!

I am sick and tired of the Libs trotting out Kids who will be separated from their illegal parents. Their parent did that to them, not I nor the US. Send them back. The parents are illegal, so the kids are biorn to those subject to a foreign power - therefor ILLEGAL and NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS.

Sen. KYL enforce current law and throw them out.

25 posted on 05/28/2007 6:07:16 PM PDT by Sam Ketcham (Amnesty means vote dilution, & increased taxes to bring us down to the world poverty level.)
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To: Witchman63
I just realized something else. If the illegals are foolish enough to get the visas then they WONT be asked by their employers to continue to take their pay under the table because now the businesses will be less inclined to hire them. Hire a recently legalized immigrant and he may turn around and turn you into the IRS for not paying him legitimately especially if you recently fired him and the immigrant has an ax to grind. An illegal immigrant can’t do that. He cant turn to any legal authority for fear of being deported. Better for businesses to play it safe and continue to hire illegal aliens that aren’t covered by the bill’s amnesty. I’m telling you this bill is begging for another 12 million illegals to rush the border to fill the vacuum.
26 posted on 05/28/2007 6:09:27 PM PDT by Witchman63 ("Don't immanentize the eschaton!")
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To: Baladas
Mostly, however, he [Kyl] credited the commitment among members of the group to working out a solution amenable to both sides.

He got an 8 oz glass of arsenic with a tablespoon of milk in it. Congratulations on the milk, Hero.

Also, I wonder what words he just learned from his constituents that caused his little pals to titter so. Traitor, Betrayer, Backstabber, Liar, Quisling, Enemy Within, Fifth Columnist...

27 posted on 05/28/2007 6:17:51 PM PDT by Sal (It's EVIL to SLOW BLEED our troops and our country.)
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To: Cicero
I don't think many people would sell out their country for small change.

I guess a federal judgeship isn't exactly small change, but I think a person who would buy a judgeship by selling out his alleged principles will make a very poor judge.

The good news is that judges can be impeached.

28 posted on 05/28/2007 6:22:36 PM PDT by Sal (It's EVIL to SLOW BLEED our troops and our country.)
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To: Baladas

There’s something rotten in the state of Arizona.


29 posted on 05/28/2007 6:25:09 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Witchman63

Bottom line is, all we’re doing is just kicking the can a little further down the road. Two years from now, instead of looking for those who are in the country and have no ‘documents’, we’ll be looking for those who got one of the free life-long probationary visas, then never turned up to complete the process. And when the first one is found and scheduled for a deportation hearing, we’ll get the same news stories about ‘families that are being destroyed’, and Congress will change the law. It’s a scam, pure and simple.


30 posted on 05/28/2007 6:28:24 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Scotsman will be Free

You got that right. And they will lose their jobs. Why hire a newly legal immigrant who can sue you, demand better working conditions, and claim all the rights of citizens when an illegal immigrant CAN’T do any of these things. Oh you’re legal? You’re fired. Hey illegal immigrant you want a job?


31 posted on 05/28/2007 6:31:18 PM PDT by Witchman63 ("Don't immanentize the eschaton!")
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

You forget to count the RINOs. We don’t have 40 votes.


32 posted on 05/28/2007 6:31:48 PM PDT by zendari
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To: Baladas

After winning a bruising re-election battle last November in which immigration featured prominently,

I am sure the NYT did not do it on purpose but they actually explained Kyl’s position here. In November he was up for reelection so had to say what the constituents wanted to hear him say to get reelected. He will not be running again so doesn’t care now what people say. He has taken a ‘screw you’ attitude. What a fraudulent shyster he is. If Kyl is one of the most conservative that the Republicans have, they are in deep doo doo and so is this country and the American people.
They are gonna add 40-70 million people to the welfare roles.


33 posted on 05/28/2007 6:35:23 PM PDT by sheana
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To: ArmstedFragg

I don’t understand why business is behind this bill when they are just going to keep on hiring illegals regardless and have to help foot the welfare tax bill for the legalized immigrants they wont hire in the first place. This is nothing more than an attempt by the democratic party to load their membership and destroy the republican party. It will take another 50 years for the failed policies of liberalism and the shear logic of conservative ideas to get another republican presidency and congress.


34 posted on 05/28/2007 6:40:13 PM PDT by Witchman63 ("Don't immanentize the eschaton!")
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To: zendari

We could have 40 counting the 10 democrats or so if the supposed conservatives like Kyl, Isaakson. Chambliss, Lott and others hadn’t done a 180 sellout. I keep hoping they realize the damage they’re causing and come back around but I’m not holding my breath...


35 posted on 05/28/2007 6:42:28 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Witchman63

Apparently Teddy Kennedy is a heckuva lot smarter than what represents the GOP right now.


36 posted on 05/28/2007 6:44:44 PM PDT by sheana
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To: B4Ranch

37 posted on 05/28/2007 6:45:38 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: Baladas

Maybe Mr. Kyl should be more interested in getting “amnesty” to border agents Ramos and Campean instead of giving “amnesy” to lawbreaking illegal invaders.
Plus, if this amnesty goes through how many terrorists, rapists will get a z card?


38 posted on 05/28/2007 6:48:43 PM PDT by Isabelle
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To: Cicero
Someone on another thread speculated that he had been offered a post as a federal judge if he did this for Bush.

Yup. You can read about John Kyl's history and how he always wanted to be a judge here: "The Federal Observer," Once Upon A Time there was a Senator named Jon Kyl.... Part 1. Judas Kyl & his 'Thirty Pieces of Silver'

http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=11591

Excerpt:
"Rather than having to run for re-election periodically trying to convince voters not to hold him accountable for his voting record, he really wanted to be a judge. Not just a county or state judge, but a federal judge with a lifetime appointment regardless of the outrageous decisions he might deliver or how blatantly he pandered to special interests or powerful politicians."

39 posted on 05/28/2007 6:49:54 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: South40


40 posted on 05/28/2007 6:50:20 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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