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Posted on 05/28/2007 9:33:12 AM PDT by wagglebee
The Christian attorney who fought to keep Terry Schiavo alive says the three leading GOP presidential candidates don't understand the important disability issues involved in the widely publicized 2005 case.
During a recent Republican presidential debate in California, the candidates were asked whether Congress was right to intervene in the Terry Schiavo case by attempting to prevent the state of Florida from removing the disabled woman's feeding tube. The answers varied.
Mitt Romney, former governor of Massachusetts, said he thought it "was a mistake" for Congress to get involved and the matter should have been left at the state level. Senator John McCain said Congress "probably acted too hastily." And former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani called the case a "family dispute."
David Gibbs III of the Christian Law Association says the United States gives greater due process to convicted murderers than to innocent disabled people. The former attorney for Schiavo's parents argues that Congress did the right thing when it intervened to provide her those rights.
"Many of the candidates are following the political wind, if you will, instead of showing leadership and saying, 'You know what? That was good public policy back then. We need to stand up for the disabled. We need to stand up for the senior citizens,'" Gibbs says. "We need to have that compassion for vulnerable people as opposed to taking the mindset that those people that just don't matter," he notes.
It is disingenuous, the Christian attorney contends, for candidates to claim they are pro-life but not be willing to grant due process rights to the disabled. "If you're pro-life, you have to be pro-life at every step," he says.
"Please understand: our founding fathers understood that you don't have any liberty, our Constitution doesn't matter, if you don't protect the innocent life of the citizens," Gibbs explains. "That's why they talked about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness -- your free speech, your freedom of religion, your right to own a gun or [receive] due process of law," he says. "If the government can kill you, you have no true liberty."
When Rudy Giuliani visited Florida he initially said he was in favor of assisting Terry Schiavo but later backpedaled from those comments, Gibbs points out. And in the recent GOP presidential debate, he says, only Kansas Senator Sam Brownback and Congressman Duncan Hunter of California got the issue right when they were asked about the Schiavo case.
Ping to this and subsequent posts. We have a break in the case! The autopsy report on Terri Schiavo was just called into question, with solid reason. List tenders, your folks ought to see this.
How did he figure she strangled herself to death? Sheesh!
Very interesting.
I keep reminding our visitors that Michael could do the same some day. It must be a dreadful burden on his heart and mind and conscience. He tries to blot it out of his mind but he cannot. He tried to "get even" with Terri by being cruel to her and ultimately executing her by torture. But she was the innocent and her blood on his hands condemns him evermore.
Michael isn't all bad. Someday yet he may fall to his knees and ask God's forgiveness. I hope so.
Pray for him.
What I don't understand is how he became the: Stephen J. Nelson, M.D. Chairman, Florida Medical Examiners Commission
Seats on government commission have powers and perks. Bill Clinton, when he was governor, used to sell them, and I recall sworn testimony about people paying him with wads of cash in brown paper bags. No foolin’ :-)
Here is Micheal's friend off camera opinion of Michael.
"Trudy Capone, a nurse who cared for Terri at the Sabel Palms nursing home who knew and saw Michael Schiavo socially, was quoted as saying about him:
"Michael is evil, evil, evil. There is no other word for him. Everything that is around Michael turns bad. Once you get to know the real Michael, you wanted to run, but he would chase you. He was so controlling that he needs to know where you are and who you are talking to all the time." Trudy
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Big John...
He stood 5'6 and weighed 145...
Big John....., big bad John Wang.
Another bump to post 1301.
And from my old files:
“Jackie Rhoades, testified at the 1996 guardianship hearing that she knew Terri was being abused, that she frequently saw her with bruises on her arms and legs, and that Terri was afraid of Michael. Jackie further stated that Terri intended to divorce Michael, and that she and Terri were making plans to get an apartment together. Also, Terri’s brother Bobby also testified to his knowledge of Terri’s abuse, and corroborated much of Jackie’s testimony.”
heavenlyhands.net/ffrob2.html
The same way the trolls around here declared that Terri had "collapsed" from "bulimia."
Then they announced that they were scientific and rational, said we were delusional and prisoners of emotion, called us Terribots, mocked Terri as vegetable, and danced the dance of death.
I have the greatest respect for Trudy. She's a no-nonsense truth teller, and I have no doubt at all that Michael was evil in her first-hand experience. Both she and Cindy Shook called him "incredibly mean."
And let’s remember to give kudos to Sam Brownback and Duncan Hunter’s answers in the 1st Republican debate:
“MR. MATTHEWS: Senator Brownback, should Congress have gotten involved in that personal case?
SEN. BROWNBACK: Yes, it should have, and it gave her the right and the family the right to take that appeal to the court. That’s what the Congress did.
And her life is sacred. Even if it’s in that difficult moment that she’s in at that point in time, that life is sacred. And we should stand for life in all its circumstances.
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“MR. MATTHEWS: Okay. Congressman, Bill Clinton back home.
REP. HUNTER: You know, Bill Clinton cut the U.S. Army by almost 50 percent. In this war against terror, he’s the wrong guy to have in there.
==>And incidentally, on the Schiavo case, you know Ronald Reagan said on the question of life, when there’s a question, error on the side of life. I think Congress did the right thing.”
http://www.iht.com/bin/print.php?id=5562636
Noteworthy is that Duncan Hunter was not even asked the question about Terri, but felt it was important to incorporate his response in another question.
Speaking of the dance of death, check your FReepmail.
Was it Jackie whom Terri talked with that last night? (I don’t have the files at hand.) One of Terri’s friends offered her shelter that night when Terri broke down and cried on the phone over Michael’s bullying. Probably Jackie but I can’t say for sure.
I can’t remember if it was Jackie, either, but I remember her friend saying that she would stay with Terri, since Michael was so angry.
Terri said that she didn’t have to, because she would just pretend she was sleeping when Michael came home.
If anyone has doubts as to the evil and claims they can recognize evil when they see it, they need go no further than the closest photo of him showing his eyes. They all come out the same far as I can tell, radiating the same cold evil as a shark or the devil himself.
Yes he did.
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Can you imagine what Terri went through for 15 years with that jerk? Oh God, please forgive us.
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