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Mironov Tells Kyoto Experts The World Is Getting Cooler
Moscow Times.com ^
| May 28 2007
| Simon Shuster
Posted on 05/28/2007 12:02:47 AM PDT by carlo3b
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To: Savage Beast
Hmm.
Sorry, SB, but this all sounds a bit fishy to me. I have become very suspicious and cynical about "trust me" stories. No offense intended, just a sign of the times. [Tom]
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posted on
05/28/2007 12:40:15 PM PDT
by
drtom
To: razzle
No, you played the religion card with...
” the darwin crowd, who believe that all this (the earth, life, mankind) is just a big freakish mistake or random mutation”
Nice try, though, loser.
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posted on
05/28/2007 12:43:00 PM PDT
by
gcruse
To: drtom
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posted on
05/28/2007 1:02:49 PM PDT
by
Savage Beast
(Of all that I have accomplished, the thing that I am proudest of is that I have a good heart. ~Oprah)
To: Savage Beast
If it’s worth telling, it’s worth telling it all. Go for it!
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posted on
05/28/2007 1:20:34 PM PDT
by
drtom
To: carlo3b
"... hich drew more than 200 environmental experts and carbon market participants from around the world. "
Ahhh yes -- the money.
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posted on
05/28/2007 1:41:23 PM PDT
by
WorkerbeeCitizen
(I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
To: carlo3b
>>ST. PETERSBURG — It was a failure from the start. Russia’s biggest conference on the Kyoto Protocol, which aims to fight global warming, began with a speech from a top official who denied that global warming even exists.<<
Yes... well, the Oceans are rising. The oceans have been rising for more than a century. The Reagan administration was already concerned enough about it to set up an agency to study it. The U.S. army says the Oceans are rising.
But its slow. Less than a few inches last century and less than a foot over the next 50 years. Its real but its slow.
Gore etc exaggerate the speed of the rise to cause a rush to judgment about the cause and the solution. Many of these people are same ones who oppose capitalism and industry for any reason and are happy to make the situation worse than it is for political reasons.
But some of us know that democracy and prosperity depend on capitalism and we who value the environment because we want a nice place to live and not because environmentalism is our religion.
We need to keep this sane. We study the situation, see if anything can be done and keep the fanatic from running the show.
But we will never do that by denying the reality that to global surface temperature is slowly rising and that the oceans are slowly rising.
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posted on
05/28/2007 1:43:26 PM PDT
by
gondramB
(No man can be brave who thinks pain the greatest evil)
To: carlo3b
Maybe he’ll disappear like Vladimir Alexandrov.
Poof, one less critic.
127
posted on
05/28/2007 1:48:19 PM PDT
by
DBrow
To: Lazamataz
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posted on
05/28/2007 1:51:16 PM PDT
by
bvw
To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Global population is more likely to be in serious decline than rise. What are your FACTS that say otherwise?
Just to note -- joining the consensus is not a substitute for logic or facts. Anger, frothing, rudeness and idiocy are not arguments.
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posted on
05/28/2007 1:54:26 PM PDT
by
bvw
To: gcruse
“loser.” ?
I believe I was designed (as was the whole Universe), and you believe you are a random mutation descended from bonzo the chimp. Sounds like you are the loser. Ever heard of reading? its one of the 3Rs (reading writing & arithmetic), try reading some facts about darwinism (and then get back to me).
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posted on
05/28/2007 1:55:53 PM PDT
by
razzle
To: razzle
Your ignorance is overwhelming, but it’s the pride in it that passes me by. As I said, religion was introduced in this thread by you, not me. Spin that. Loser.
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posted on
05/28/2007 1:58:31 PM PDT
by
gcruse
To: carlo3b
Stop Global CoolingStop Global Warming
Stop Global Equilibrium
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posted on
05/28/2007 2:00:54 PM PDT
by
Raycpa
To: Grimmy; MadIvan
The profane babbling of another mad Ivan.Don't you know it's proper Freeper etiquette to ping a fellow Freeper when you mention them. ;)
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posted on
05/28/2007 2:05:17 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
To: razzle
the darwin crowd, who believe that all this (the earth, life, mankind) is just a big freakish mistake or random mutation
you are a random mutation descended from bonzo the chimp
It strikes me that you are not at all familiar with what Darwinsm says or, more importantly in your case, what it doesn't say. May I suggest you apply the "reading" suggestion to yourself. Otherwise, by using old wives tales in your argumentation, you are exposing yourself as a charlatan.
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posted on
05/28/2007 2:05:21 PM PDT
by
drtom
To: dfwgator
MadIvan, I was sorry to learn the other day, has been banned.
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posted on
05/28/2007 2:07:27 PM PDT
by
gcruse
To: carlo3b
Frankly, I’d rather have global warming than global cooling; but I hope both sides are wrong.
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posted on
05/28/2007 2:55:43 PM PDT
by
patriciaruth
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
To: norton
“Come to my house, I can make kids plant trees and take out the recycling and not charge a dime! :-)”
“I wonder if they taught them to do windows?”
Considering how horrible and watered-down some of our education system has become, training in janitorial services may be of more use than the starry-eyed students might imagine.
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posted on
05/28/2007 2:57:59 PM PDT
by
WOSG
(Stop Illegal Immigration. Call your Senator today. Senate Switchboard at 202-224-3121.))
To: carlo3b
"Gore isnt going to like this one bit.."That's the way... Uh huh, uh huh... The way I like it... Uh huh, uh huh...
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posted on
05/28/2007 3:57:23 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
To: burzum
"Note: don't assume that I necessarily support the opposite if I reject some argument. To do so would be to be small minded and to draw hasty conclusions of my intentions and reasoning."EnvironMental activists have used that "winning through intimidation" tactic against elected officials for the past 30-40 years with impunity!
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posted on
05/28/2007 4:05:19 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
To: burzum
There has also been speculation that a warmer climate may benefit Siberia.
Russia did sign on to Kyoto, but only once they figured they would make billions as a payee nation. Their economic destruction had collapsed their emissions.
They likely will walk away from any revision with a new baseline.
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posted on
05/28/2007 4:30:28 PM PDT
by
Wiseghy
("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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