Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Half of S.Korean Businesses in China in the Red
Chosun Ilbo ^ | 05/28/07

Posted on 05/27/2007 6:40:37 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-42 next last
Words leaked out of Samsung that it is considering building a big cell-phone factory in Viet Nam, in a next few years. It is still in preliminary planning stage. However, its employees are already talking about their possible life in Viet Nam.:-)
1 posted on 05/27/2007 6:40:38 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 05/27/2007 6:41:21 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, kae jong-il, chia head, ppogri, midget sh*tbag)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TigerLikesRooster
"We need to change our strategy for the Chinese market from low-value added, labor-intensive industries to high-value added ones, and to switch focus from exports to third countries to domestic consumption in China."

More competition for the sector that the US is trying to target.

3 posted on 05/27/2007 6:45:14 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TigerLikesRooster

WOW I didn’t know about this Tiger

Really


4 posted on 05/27/2007 6:49:44 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TigerLikesRooster
I wonder what effect the currency conversion,, won to yuan has to do with this scenario. The chinese screw everyone they can with their currency manipulation.
5 posted on 05/27/2007 6:55:37 PM PDT by kinoxi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kinoxi
Re #5

A lot. In return, they will get screwed royally in the end. Let them feel cocky now.

6 posted on 05/27/2007 6:58:32 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, kae jong-il, chia head, ppogri, midget sh*tbag)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: TigerLikesRooster

China / Korea ping


7 posted on 05/27/2007 6:59:13 PM PDT by indthkr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TigerLikesRooster
In return, they will get screwed royally in the end.

While I hope you are right, I don't see how this would happen. Could you please explain?

8 posted on 05/27/2007 7:02:03 PM PDT by pnh102
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: pnh102
Re #8

A massive stock bubble currently forming inside China, their badly corrupt financial system, and adverse effect of undervalued currency(invites currency speculation) lead to an unhappy ending. As for stock bubble, these days Chinese media features kiddy stock whiz in an elementary school who made bundle from his stock investment. This is an episode akin to shoeshine boy giving stock tips to Joseph Kennedy.

9 posted on 05/27/2007 7:07:05 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, kae jong-il, chia head, ppogri, midget sh*tbag)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: pnh102
They are artificially manipulating their currency. There is no rise and fall corresponding to other national currencies. China will not let it’s currency rise in value as a natural consequence of their increased productivity. They keep it (yuan) artificially undervalued through government control. This is how they create unfair trade practices.
10 posted on 05/27/2007 7:23:36 PM PDT by kinoxi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: pnh102
think back to the japan bubble a few years back???
11 posted on 05/27/2007 7:31:34 PM PDT by camas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: camas

Comparing China to Japan is difficult.


12 posted on 05/27/2007 7:42:30 PM PDT by kinoxi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

Comment #13 Removed by Moderator

To: baboon

Explain your point a bit further please. The artificial manipulation of the Chinese government’s currency has nothing to do with this?


14 posted on 05/27/2007 8:05:25 PM PDT by kinoxi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: TigerLikesRooster
...its employees are already talking about their possible life in Viet Nam.:-)

People have been talking about this since the mid-90s. Most of the "shakers and movers" doing business in China have been planning their next move in Asia for years...

The currency changes (9% compared to the USD so far), and policy changes in the country, are making it more competitive while improving opportunities for local corporations thus creating a level playing field.

No longer do Chinese employees choose a foreign company to work for as a first option. There are a few local companies that have implemented very good business practices and could be considered world class.

However, on the flip side, there are still many years yet before business should be completely abandoned as they write in the article. A company needs to fully understand how to do business in China, and the tools necessary to be successful. In fact, there are still opportunities in the western part of China where the government is promoting growth.

The areas that are affected by increasing wages and cost are the giant super-cities along the east-coast where good employees are becoming more difficult to find. This is because there is always another company willing to pay more for their talent, driving up the cost for labor... The cost for services and materials are also driven upwards because of the increased demand in those cities.

The main reason those companies shut down, or are in the red, is because of poor management and bad planning.

Samsung is not moving to Vietnam because of the Chinese market conditions, but they are opening a new plant in Vietnam because of the opportunity for business in Vietnam and neighboring countries.

15 posted on 05/27/2007 8:06:47 PM PDT by InShanghai (I was born on the crest of a wave, and rocked in the cradle of the deep.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: baboon
Re #13

You don't understand. Foreign companies, especially smaller ones, incur many hidden costs, while Chinese companies with connections would do better. Besides, labor cost is rising because so much cash flow into China, and it is also creating huge bubbles in financial and housing market. This is in large part due to artificially undervalued Chinese currency.

China is also facing the same problem as S. Korean companies do. Their advantage of cheap labor is diminishing while other social costs are rising. Even though they may not face the problem now, they will soon do so.

16 posted on 05/27/2007 8:09:16 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, kae jong-il, chia head, ppogri, midget sh*tbag)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: baboon
I'm glad at least someone has their thinking-cap on! China bashing in my eyes is the same as a liberal whining rant. Let's face it, politics can only change things a small amount.

The only way to take advantage of the situation is to understand the market and its dynamics. Only then can we always be one step ahead. Didn't Sun-tzu write something along those same lines?

17 posted on 05/27/2007 8:15:48 PM PDT by InShanghai (I was born on the crest of a wave, and rocked in the cradle of the deep.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: InShanghai
Re #15

The main reason those companies shut down, or are in the red, is because of poor management and bad planning.

You can always say that. Well-managed company can even survive world-wide economic depression, for sure. Still, the exodus of such company relfects worsening business condition in China.

I heard that Samsung's new plant in Viet Nam will service Europe and other areas. It may service S.E. Asia, but it is only a part of it.

There could be more opportunities deep inside China. However, as export hub, they may not meet the requirement of many foreign companies.

18 posted on 05/27/2007 8:15:55 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, kae jong-il, chia head, ppogri, midget sh*tbag)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: InShanghai

You are pro China manipulating it’s currency? Yes or No?


19 posted on 05/27/2007 8:28:01 PM PDT by kinoxi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: TigerLikesRooster
..the exodus of such company relfects worsening business condition in China.

From what I see, there are no indications of an exodus, however one company's decision to relocate. The reasons for this move can be numerous, but in my experience, the larger companies will retain a portion of their production in different areas.

Therefore, the final product being shipped to Europe will have one component made in the Phillipines, one made in Malaysia, one made in Singapore, one made in China, one made in Japan, and finally assembled in Vietnam and put on a container for Germany.

This is how costs are kept down and all their eggs aren't kept in one basket...

20 posted on 05/27/2007 8:32:29 PM PDT by InShanghai (I was born on the crest of a wave, and rocked in the cradle of the deep.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-42 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson