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To: Creationist
"Do not go to Texas where you may see man foot prints and dinosaur prints in the same level of rock.

That was debunked years ago, they were dinosaur tracks, not human.

"Do not believe the Roman Coins with dragon depictions on them.

Some dragons look like funny dinosaurs, some look like funny snakes, some look like nothing possibly alive on Earth (unless there were six limbed dinosaurs).

I'm sure that if we found pictures of unicorns somewhere that would be evidence that they existed. Especially if the pictures were found on something official. Well I'll be jiggered, Britain has a unicorn on their Royal Coat of Arms.

"Do not believe the Inca Stones with depictions of dragons on them. Or the fact that the skin pattern depicted was only recently verified.

I've seen reports that they are a fraud.

I've also seen pictures of minotaurs, griffins and jackal gods engraved in stone.

"As to you belief that they went extinct before the flood is unknown. That is assuming you even believe in the Flood of Noah's day.

If a global flood the size of that portrayed in the Bible happened as little as 4000 years ago we should be able to predict what physical evidence would be left. We have found mountains of physical evidence but none of it points to a global flood. It just didn't happen.

What evidence we do find is that the majority of dinos went extinct within a few million years of the Chicxulub impact. Those that remained were of the bird 'kind'. We find no dino fossils in with human fossils. Even if they never lived side by side so we shouldn't find the fossils together we should be able to find them within the same level of strata giving a similar relative age, or find them in layers which date the same through radiometric dating. Yet the dinosaurs, no matter where they are found are between layers consistently dated much older than those layers which sandwich human fossils. Unless the type of fossils themselves affect the dating of the layers surrounding them, even if you doubt the absolute date, the relative difference in dates is unquestionable.

"Before the flood things lived longer and grew larger. After the flood things did not live as long therefore did not grow as large.

This is pure conjecture on your part. There is no evidence that organisms lived longer in the past than they do now. The rate of growth in the plexiform perichondral bone in dinosaur skeletons grew rapidly suggesting that even the oldest did not live more than 50 or 60 years.

"It is a scientific fact that reptiles grow until they die. So pre flood larger, post flood smaller.

Even the fastest growing reptile, growing at a couple dozen grams a day would take centuries to reach the size of a large elephant let alone a large dinosaur. The reason reptiles continue to grow for such a length of time is because they have extremely slow metabolisms. Later dinos such as TRex were more closely related to birds than to crocs. Birds have quite fast metabolisms. They do not grow throughout their entire lives. Sauropods and theropods had pneumatic vertebrae, shortened stiffened dorsal columns and mobile abdominal ribs as well as other features shared with birds but not reptiles.

If you want accurate analogs to dinosaurs look to birds not extant reptiles.

"There are many legends (which is not a scientific fact, same as evolution is not scientific but a hypothesis on unproved ideals) of dinosaurs seem by tribal people in South America and Africa.

Are you sure all those legends are talking about the same animal?

Legends are not evidence for anything but the imagination of human beings.

Would you mind explaining to me why the existence of dinosaurs at the same time as humans would lend support to the Biblical flood, or be evidence against evolution?

300 posted on 05/30/2007 8:31:55 PM PDT by b_sharp (The last door on your right. Jiggle the handle.)
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To: b_sharp
You asked,
Would you mind explaining to me why the existence of dinosaurs at the same time as humans would lend support to the Biblical flood, or be evidence against evolution?

First I believe as many young earth creationist that the earth is only 6000 years old or less.

Second If that is true (which is my belief and the visible evidence of the world and stars better support my belief than evolutionary beliefs. And Evolution is more faith based than that of Jesus of the Bible), the fossil evidence we find is best explained by the rapid burial of a global flood. As would the coal fields, Niagara Falls, Grand Canyon, ect. ect.

If dinosaurs were around with man (which I believe) than the earth is not billions or even millions of years old.

There is no way todays long and slow actions could create large fossil beds we see, unless you really believe that an animal laid there for million of years while sediments buried it.

And on another note man made objects have been found in coal fields.

If you think AIG is a god fearing site with creationist views you are sadly mistaken, they adhere to billions and millions of years which is contrary to the Bible.

The physical evidence for a global flood is in front of your eyes in sedimentary rock, the great coral reef, bristol cone pine, redwood forest, Mississippi Delta, lack of sediment in the Ocean, polystrate fossils, Toutle river,
307 posted on 06/01/2007 7:15:05 PM PDT by Creationist ( Evolution=alternative to believing in God to justify their moral shortfalls and animal behavior)
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311 posted on 06/01/2007 8:10:27 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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