'We must fine you because you're a Christian' Convert loses family, home, crops - Hindu crackdown

WND ^ | Friday, May 25, 2007

[kittymyrib]

“And take they our life, goods, fame, child, and wife,
Let these all be gone,
They have yet nothing won,
The Kingdom ours remaineth.”

from “A Mighty Fortress Is Our God” by Martin Luther.

[farmer18th]

I thought Hindus were into flakey tolerance of some sort? Forgot the “tolerance” crowd can’t stand anyone who doesn’t accept everything.

[starbase]

A report from the Hindu American Foundation accused a long list of Christian organizations, including some providing aid in India, of promoting hatred.

"The proliferation of websites promoting religious hatred is an unfortunate consequence of the universality of access to the internet," said Vinay Vallabh, the lead author of the report.

Among those targeted verbally included the Southern Baptists' missions board, Gospel for Asia and the Minnesota-based Olive Tree Ministries, which aims its ministry at teaching Christians about their beliefs.

Weird that Hindus would come to America, create the Hindu American Foundation, and then say Southern Baptists are doing evil in India. I don't believe that.

I wonder what Nepal's apparently fanatical hatred of Christianity is based on, especially when Buddhists and Muslims are tolerated and make up about 20% of the population. You'd think a little speck of Christians wouldn't upset anyone.

Must be related to British colonial rule. Otherwise, who would notice such a small group of Christians in a land filled with all sorts of religious sects and practitioners?

[GOP_Party_Animal]

I know a priest that works in India. For the most part, he reports relations with local Hindus are very good. As for the Muslims in India, I’ve never seen a mild-mannered priest get so worked up about those SOBs.

[Obie Wan]

This persecution by Hindu’s of Christians seems to be stepping up.I wonder if our buddies the moooooooooooooslims are their inspiration ???

[MrEdd]

I thought Hindus were into flakey tolerance of some sort?

That's the Buddhists

[starbase]

This persecution by Hindu’s of Christians seems to be stepping up.I wonder if our buddies the moooooooooooooslims are their inspiration ???

Personally I think it's a warm up to the Hindu vs Muslim genocide that will (IMO) one day explode all over India.

The Hindus will win, as they have a 7 to 1 advantage, and it will probably only end with the extermination of all non-Hindu religions in India, and millions upon millions upon millions of deaths. Maybe they'll let a few Buddhists stick around, but probably they'll force them to become Hindus.

That's one possible scenario for the future. With China's and India's already gargantuan populations spewing even higher, I see only blackness in the future for both places. They can't sustain even what they have now.

[Disambiguator]

These guys are helping out in India and other parts of Asia.

http://www.gfa.org

[BnBlFlag]

I wonder if they “fine” the Muzzies?

[yldstrk]

It’s okay. God will see to it he is more fully rewarded. The Hindus will not benefit by their stupidity.

[Pete98]

Yeah well, somehow it will be America’s fault...

[starbase]

Of course, just point your finger at the largest object you can see. The whole world is doing it, it’s all the rage. ;-)

[nobdysfool]

Peter began to say to him, "See, we have left everything and followed you." Jesus said, "Truly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or lands, for my sake and for the gospel, who will not receive a hundredfold now in this time, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions, and in the age to come eternal life. (Mar 10:28-30)

This is mnothing unusual. It is only in America that we have become insulated from the cost of following Christ.

[CarrotAndStick]

‘Church backing Tripura rebels’

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/south_asia/717775.stm

The government in India’s north-eastern state of Tripura says it has evidence that the state’s Baptist Church is involved in backing separatist rebels.

Tripura Chief Minister Manik Sarkar said state police had uncovered details of the alleged link after questioning a church leader.

Nagmanlal Halam, secretary of the Noapara Baptist Church in Tripura, was arrested late on Monday with a large quantity of explosives.

Mr Sarkar said that allegations about the close links between the state’s Baptist Church and the rebel National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) have long been made by political parties and police.

Now for the first time, he said, hard evidence supporting the allegations had been found.

Explosives

Mr Sarkar told the BBC that Mr Halam was found in possession of more than 50 gelatine sticks, 5kg of potassium and 2kg of sulphur and other ingredients for making explosives.

Chief Minister Sarkar says he has proof

He said that two other junior members of the same church, arrested last week, had tipped the police off about the explosives which were meant for the NLFT rebels.

The chief minister said that Mr Halam confessed to buying and supplying explosives to the NLFT for the past two years.

Another church official, Jatna Koloi, was arrested in south Tripura last week.

Police say Mr Koloi had received training in guerrilla warfare at an NLFT base last year.

Conversion

Guards have been placed outside the headquarters of the Baptist Church in Tripura’s capital, Agartala, to prevent possible attacks on it once the news of Mr Halam’s arrest spread.

The NLFT is accused of forcing Tripura’s indigenous tribes to become Christians and give up Hindu forms of worship in areas under their control.

Last year, they issued a ban on the Hindu festivals of Durga Puja and Saraswati Puja.

The NLFT manifesto says that they want to expand what they describe as the kingdom of God and Christ in Tripura.

The Baptist Church in Tripura was set up by missionaries from New Zealand 60 years ago.

It won only a few thousand converts until 1980 when in the aftermath, of the state’s worst ethnic riot, the number of conversions grew.

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National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT)

The National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) was formed in December 1989 for the purpose of seceding from India in order to create an independent Christian fundamentalist state of Tripura. The group was banned under the Unlawful Activies Prevention Act of 1967.

The headquarters of NLFT is located in the Khagrachari district of Bangladesh, about 40-45 km southeast of Simanapur.

In Tripura a systematic surrender of arms by a faction of NLFT insurgents and NLFT fringe groups is due to the increased security pressure and to infighting within NLFT insurgent ranks. Since 2000 a few hundred militants have surrendered in small groups to the security forces, handing in their weapons. The NLFT leadership engaged in peace talks with Mizoram Chief Zoramthanga in April 2001, however the NLFT has not promised acceptance of any future peace process.

The NLFT has set up a number of camps in Bangladesh’s Chittagong Hill Tracts (CHT), in the Sylhet, Maulavi Bazar, Habiganj and Comilla regions. NLFT also has ties with Pakistan’s external intelligence agency, the Inter Services Intelligence Agency (ISI).

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/nlft.htm

[Gengis Khan]

Nepal Ping!

[starbase]

The NLFT manifesto says that they want to expand what they describe as the kingdom of God and Christ in Tripura.

The Baptist Church in Tripura was set up by missionaries from New Zealand 60 years ago.

It won only a few thousand converts until 1980 when in the aftermath, of the state’s worst ethnic riot, the number of conversions grew.



But these sound like local people. After all, the man's name is Nagmanlal Halam. And this church was set up 60 years ago. And it has had a small congregation until recently, which means it must have been a highly localised group of people.

It sounds more to me that a group of rebels is using this church, or has identified with it, and have built their local rebellion around this church and their local culture.

Really, to take such a small church that was founded long ago and is being run by locals who are buying explosives for the rebels, and try to make it out like outside Western Christians, and especially the Southern Baptists of the US (by implication) and doing all this is highly selective at best.

Clearly these are local people doing this. What do you have to say about their responsibility?

[CarrotAndStick]

If they are self-acclaimed ‘Baptists’, and if they are doing it under that banner, then it doesn’t make them any better, or any different than/from the “Hindus” doing the same misdeeds. Say wot?

[starbase]

What are you talking about with the Hindus? This was a claim that Baptists are causing trouble in India, but what we find is that it is an ultra obscure little church of locals with a small congregation formed 60 years ago.

This cannot be said to show evidence that Christians are engaging in violent rebellions, just that some local yokels are, and who knows how they've interwoven their tiny church and it's teachings into their local rebellion.

When you find a rebellion inciting machinery running through big and modern churches in the US that is attacking India, then let me know.

[CarrotAndStick]

This was a claim that Baptists are causing trouble in India, but what we find is that it is an ultra obscure little church of locals 'BAPTISTS' with a small congregation formed 60 years ago.

If you replace 'Baptist' with 'Hindu'...

This cannot be said to show evidence that Christians Hindus are engaging in violent rebellions, just that some local yokels are, and who knows how they've interwoven their tiny church group and its teachings into their local rebellion.

Agree?