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To: MNJohnnie

So what you’re essentially arguing, if I may try to sum up your long post, is that the Islamic Fascists will eventually try to kill us again anyway, and that Iraq is strategically the best place to kill them.

If that’s true, why not attack one of the countries that was actually ruled by a jihadist government, like Iran or Syria? Or maybe the country that supplied the majority of the hijackers, Saudi Arabia? And if it must be Iraq, why engage in a historically unwinnable occupation which the DoD predicted would start a civil war?

And even if we grant ALL that, you can’t possible believe that using this current strategy of soft war we can quell the civil war.


42 posted on 05/26/2007 10:43:55 AM PDT by TeenagedConservative
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To: TeenagedConservative

How many soldiers and other military have you talked to that has served in Iraq?


45 posted on 05/26/2007 11:11:19 AM PDT by Swiss
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To: TeenagedConservative
"If that’s true, why not attack one of the countries that was actually ruled by a jihadist government, like Iran or Syria?"

There is more hope of the Iraqis emerging out of the Middle East's Islamic imposed dark Ages than a country ruled by full blown jihadist government, like Iran or Syria.

Search Iyad Jamal Al-Din (an Iraiq PM) on memritv.com to see how this is working in Iraq.

The clip #1285 - Iraqi MP Iyad Jamal Al-Din: "We Are Like a Bird Born in a Cage - America Broke the Cage Open, but the Bird Does Not Know How to Fly" is a very good one.

Here are some Iyad Jamal Al-Din quotes;

"We do not hold ourselves accountable. This is why America came to demand that the Arabs be accountable. We must have more self-confidence and be accountable before others hold us accountable. we must discipline ourselves before the Americans and English discipline us. We must maintain human rights, which we have neglected for 1,300 or 1,400 years, to this day - until the arrival of the Americans, the Christians, the English, the Zionists, or the Crusaders - call them what you will. They came to teach you, the followers of Muhammad, how to respect human rights." "If that’s true, why not attack one of the countries that was actually ruled by a jihadist government, like Iran or Syria?"

There is more hope of the Iraqis emerging out of the Middle East's Islamic imposed dark Ages than a country ruled by full blown jihadist government, like Iran or Syria.

Search Iyad Jamal Al-Din (an Iraiq PM) on memritv.com to see how this is working in Iraq.

The clip #1285 - Iraqi MP Iyad Jamal Al-Din: "We Are Like a Bird Born in a Cage - America Broke the Cage Open, but the Bird Does Not Know How to Fly" is a very good one.

Here are some Iyad Jamal Al-Din quotes;

"We do not hold ourselves accountable. This is why America came to demand that the Arabs be accountable. We must have more self-confidence and be accountable before others hold us accountable. we must discipline ourselves before the Americans and English discipline us. We must maintain human rights, which we have neglected for 1,300 or 1,400 years, to this day - until the arrival of the Americans, the Christians, the English, the Zionists, or the Crusaders - call them what you will. They came to teach you, the followers of Muhammad, how to respect human rights." "What is happening in Iraq is a real massacre and a real war between truth and falsehood, between a democratic government which relies on the public, and the remnants of the Umayyad, Abbasid, and Ottoman tyranny. Iraq will be a cemetery for them and for those behind them."

Iyad Jamal Al-Din understands, is engaged in the public dabate in Iraq, and if that public debate continues guys like Iyad Jamal Al-Din will win it.

That is why we must stay, so the public political debate can continue.

"What is happening in Iraq is a real massacre and a real war between truth and falsehood, between a democratic government which relies on the public, and the remnants of the Umayyad, Abbasid, and Ottoman tyranny. Iraq will be a cemetery for them and for those behind them."

Iyad Jamal Al-Din understands, is engaged in the public dabate in Iraq, and if that public debate continues guys like Iyad Jamal Al-Din will win it.

That is why we must stay, so the public political debate can continue.


52 posted on 05/27/2007 7:30:51 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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