Posted on 05/25/2007 10:35:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Enough said.
Read my links. I can give you thirty more, should you need convincing.
Well, I'm skeptical, given the failure in Lebanon last year, but assume all this is true. How does this deter madmen? If Ahmadnutjob is willing to launch on Israel regardless of whether Israel can destroy Iran and its allies, what does it matter that an incinerated Israel killed its opponents?
Can we afford a nuclear Iran? I say no.
“Are you really trying to equate anti-war protests with communism or are you trying to suggest they are our enemies?”
Jane Fonda wasn’t pro-American. She wasn’t neutral. She was anti-American. That makes her an enemy. She sat in a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun emplacement while the war was going on and allowed herself to be photographed BY THE NORTH VIETNAMESE for propaganda purposes. Was that in your “research”?
The fact that she took advantage of the privileges bestowed upon her, being born in a “capitalist” country, to an elite family, hardly insulates her from being considered a “communist.” Regardless, her actions were the very definition of “traitor.”
All war protestors are not “communists” or “enemies.” But enough ARE that your “taking issue” with the insinuation that there might be SOME among them is what I take issue with.
GOP candidates blast Clinton, Obama on Iraq vote
********************************EXCERPT*********************************
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said on Friday the “no” votes of Democratic presidential frontrunners Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and Barack Obama (Ill.) on the Iraq war funding bill equal surrendering to al Qaeda.
Are you seriously saying that American citizens expressing their views against war and desiring peace should be our enemies on the same level as North Vietnamese communists?
Yes, yes and once again yes.
“Are you seriously saying that American citizens expressing their views against war and desiring peace should be our enemies on the same level as North Vietnamese communists?
Grow up.”
Again, your words. Your implication is that are NO “enemies” or “communists” among the protestors. I would wager that the actual “percentage” is considerably higher than allowable in your accusatory original post. My point being- Before you tell someone to “Grow up”, know what the hell you’re talking about.
Oh, and BTW, study up some on the hypocrisy of American communists.
Your statement makes no sense, politically, socially, or morally.
The US could very easily win the Iraq reconstuction. Unfortunately, we’re allowing what happened in Vietnam to happen again. And 30 some years later, we’re more ‘wussy’ than we were then. We’re allowing a minority, a very vocal minority to control the media and our government.
You said we’re allowing our enemies to recruit. This is true since we’re allowing the fantasy of Islam being a religion of peace to continue, everyone is too afraid to call it was it is. The US is actually helping them in every way and we’re too PC to call it what it is. Outside of that, anyone with any knowledge of history and the many wars fought, knows the only way to win a war is to fight to win. We have too many emotions playing into this war as we did with Vietnam. If we’re fighting a war, we fight to win, bottom line. And it’s not a pleasant thing. If we allowed this thought or this wussiness to guide us during WWII, we’d be in a very different place right now.
This country, our military, doesn’t even need to have ground troops to fight or win a war. The problem is we’re still too nice, too compassionate, when the entire world has changed. We could end much of this, especially the situation in Iraq, if we fought a real war. This country has the best military, the best technology. Our problem is we have compassion and idealism. I think those two are wonderful things to have but it’s not going to win us this war. We have a people who aren’t willing to sacrifice, at least not yet, to protect our freedom/way of life. It’s way different than the mindset during WWII. IMO.
You mention propaganda and the only propaganda I see that is affecting the people of this country is that of the MSM/leftists, who want us to lose for some reason.
We aren’t causing nor have we caused a civil war in Iraq. The arab world did that themselves and our politicans and media perpetuate it all. Our politicians don’t care about Americans, that’s something I’m becoming more sure of daily. They don’t really care about this country or our way of life.
The US can’t surrender. Ever. I know people exist, in middle America mostly, who won’t take this lying down. I’m counting on them. Unfortunately, the east coast and west coast fell years ago. The media doesn’t care at all (they will when their amendment rights are eventually infringed upon).
I respectfully suggest you research middle eastern/arab history with a special emphasis on Islam. And of course all the cultural info. It will open your eyes immensely.
If we don’t win this, Iraq will be taken over by Iran and Syria. They’re hoping we give up.
On a personal level, I don’t give a damn about what goes on in the ME or anywhere else as long as it doesn’t affect my life here. But it is affecting my life. Illegals are affecting my life at the most base level. Islam is affecting my existence. Muslims, too.
I wouldn’t mind us pulling out everywhere all over the world and bringing all our military home. Closing our borders to everyone, with our military enforcing it. Letting the other countries, even our allies, fend for themselves. Protecting our country and its people. And in a few years when the rest of the world falls, which it will, fixing it, like we would.
All of this assumes we’d not allow the leftists to completely destroy our society, which they’re trying to do and they’re succeeding a little bit at a time. We already have the leftist agenda or the political agenda in our tax paying funded schools. We already have the MSM siding with a political agenda in education, business and private sector and now infringing on our churches and homes (hate crimes for not following the mindset of perverts and loons).
Again, I suggest you research Arab culture/Islam/the ME. Even if we win in Iraq, we have a dozen other countries to fight in that region, and we have to fight the archaic mindset of millions of people. Then there’s the whole “Palestinian question” ha. Bush was right about one thing, the WOT is going to be a long war.
don’t forget that she gave the N Viets a papers smuggled to her with names of the POWs on it. They were beaten severely once she left.
An American. Passing info on American POWs. In their presence. To Communists.
Even Communists make money. Gotta keep those party members happy with fancy cars, furs, jewels and personal entertainment.
The woman’s filth.
I believe you addressed your remark to the wrong person. It's been a long long time since I had a teacher.
The civil war between syrian and gulf state’s insurgents against iraqis?
TROLL ALERT
There are only two sides in a fight.
It does not matter why or for what philosophical reason, anyone agitating to reduce the will of their own citizens to fight in a war for their own survival is a traitor.
Enemy sympathizers are traitors. Agitpropers are traitors. Idiots that allow themselves to become moral equivalentists are cowards, idiots and traitors.
A betrayer is a betrayer. It matters exactly zero as to why they betray.
If you bother to look into it at all, even a little, you will also find that the commie scum, the anarchist scum, the knee jerk anti-Americanist scum etc etc have already largely merged into one big nasty poli-philoly of degenerate scumishness.
All equally betrayal oriented. And all equally deserving of the same applied violence currently administered to jihadi who happen to be stupid enough to be holding a weapon when an American soldier is sighting in on him.
All who are attacking us are enemy.
All who support those attacking us are enemy.
All who make excuses for those attacking us are enemy.
All who make excuses for those who make the excuses are enemy.
It is a testament to the degree to which the gramscians and chomskylanders have been able to work their nasty cultural rot that such basic social physics is no longer understood by so many.
The lines are being drawn. There’s a fight fixing to brew up. The place of least survivability will be in the no-man’s-land between the firing lines.
“Maybe by you. Engage in some home schooling and read about the misery the Vietnamese Communists inflicted on their people and then get back to us.”
Actually, technologically Vietnam is the new India. They provide cheaper labor then India and are just as skilled. The company I used to work with moved their programming efforts from India to Vietnam, saved a bundle and got their work back below budget and on time with less errors.
Funny, I would think that the people who wage deliberate indiscriminate terror acts in Iraq for no strategic purpose other than to make news headlines are the ones who promote instability there.
Note to children. Your opinions and feelings are not facts. Learn the difference. Stating your emotion based feelings as statements of "fact" are the product of a childish mind. Adults know better.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.