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NORTH KOREA HAS FIRED SEVERAL SHORT-RANGE MISSILES INTO SEA OF JAPAN
Reuters (excerpt) ^ | May 25, 2007

Posted on 05/25/2007 1:51:34 AM PDT by HAL9000

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To: HAL9000
Long past time to do the starving North Koreans a favor and wipe this mistake off the map and put them out of their misery.

North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela and Iran. All four are axis of evil and should have been dealt with...in Cuba's case... decades ago.

How the United States could have put up with these Marxist fiefdoms is the world's great mystery.

141 posted on 05/28/2007 6:15:33 AM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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To: LilyBean

“Better start pushing back soon. Time is running out, and most people are still asleep at the wheel. In fact, most people are still asleep at the wheel.

You are all seemingly getting comfortable as the super power. Don’t get too comfortable. You are going to be challenged, by more countries, more often. They see Iraq, and that the great super power is having problems. This leads them to believe that you are not as strong as you say. Or as they think.

More and more countries, will be pushing your buttons more, and more often. They sense weakness. And now they will take advantage of it. We are seeing this with NK and Iran. And I am also seeing that we are doing nothing about them. That will encourage more. You need to act soon.”

I don’t disagree with your statements above at all. Here is the real problem: We are all part of the “Me Generation” here in the West. Wealth and freedoms spur feelings that we are entitled to this way of life. Believe it or not some in other Eastern nations also are becoming this way such as the South Koreans, the Japanese and even city dwellers in China. What seems to be the best philosophy is actually Christian. Christ taught many teachings that were about sacrificing for others, to be humble and those that are become exulted. This is not a guidebook to reaching heaven, these teachings are a way of life on this earth. If every person on earth would love one’s neighbor as themselves you would have heaven on earth.

Now on to what we can do about NK and Iran. It begins with holding Russia and China responsible for their little frankenstein monsters they have created over the last few decades. Without Russia supporting Iran and China supporting NK, both nations would certainly not be so emboldened. China was like a powerful child whom we gave too much to and too soon. Russia feels threatened because of the West’s Nato expansion.

Some solutions:

1) Russia/Iran - Offer Russia a deal that we will stop Nato/EU expansion by having a four year moratorium on entering the Nato/EU. Since we are practically at Russia doorstep anyways, we have little to gain by further pushing east. In exchange for this deal, Russia gets Iran to stop producing nuclear material, abide my inspections and support UN resolutions instead of opposing them. Let Russia make the first move and if they won’t, then attack Iran and overthrow the leadership.

2) China - NK: Make China a deal they can’t refuse. Either reign in NK from test firing missles and stop their nuclear weapons program or withdraw China’s membership in the WTO. The USA may face some financial pain because China may stop investing in our treasury bonds. China is reliant on their trade imbalance with us to spend 100’s of billions modernizing their armed forces. I would rather see a MAD type situation with China then a nuclear armed NK.

If these deals can’t be done we are in some big trouble, because it means China/Russia’s intentions are completely hostile. If the deals can be done then we can leverage our military or special opps to stop either Iran or NK. You can’t deal with the puppets when you have the puppetmasters pulling the strings.


142 posted on 05/28/2007 2:18:40 PM PDT by quant5
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To: trumandogz
Nah, he is too busy hurling brickbats at conservatives to give any thought to the nation's enemies.
143 posted on 05/29/2007 10:46:49 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: expatguy
Had lunch with a Eastern European diplomat today, we were talking about Iraq and the WOT ~ and he said to me ~ "You guys can't even defend yourselves from being invaded by Mexico ... what makes you think you can succeed in Afghanistan or Iraq?"

Very disturbing.

144 posted on 05/29/2007 10:56:10 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: HAL9000

Testing, testing, testing. This is a test of the Emergency Not-Getting-Any-Face time System. Should you ignore this, our (un)Glorious Leader, might aim it more specifically. We were going to get Adam Gadan to make the announcement but he was busy. /sc


145 posted on 06/01/2007 2:18:43 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: djf

Wrong, my short sighted friend. They reason NK doesn’t have a decent drive-in is that all the electric went to the nuke facility. Plus, how interested are the masses in seeing one more piece of propoganda about the Glorious Leader....


146 posted on 06/01/2007 2:22:41 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: steveegg; Beckwith; USF; Fred Nerks; AmericanInTokyo

remember this


147 posted on 07/11/2007 5:27:49 AM PDT by expatguy (Support - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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