Live Thread: Senate Immigration/Amnesty Debate, 5/24/07 (Coleman-Bond Amendment, etc.)

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[truthkeeper]

Today's debate is just beginning. President Bush is also speaking in the Rose Garden today at 11:00 EST on this issue and war funding. (A Live Thread is up on that one too.)

I have to leave today so I can only check in periodically. Thus far Menendez (D of New Jersey) is slamming the Coleman-Bond amendment, which will REQUIRE that states and municipalities permanently END "Sanctuary Cities." Of course, his reasoning is tortured; he's pulled out the old crying towel, and is already playing the the Nazi card ("Your papers, please.")

Another amendment will be debated today as well but thus far I have no information on that one.

[truthkeeper]

Carry on, you people.

[truthkeeper]

Apologies, folks. It sounded like he just called it the "CORNYN" amendment. It sure sounded like "COLEMAN" before.

Moderator, if some nice FReeper could help me clarify this I'll ask if you could kindly fix my headline. Thanks.

[K-oneTexas]

Other than searching individuals posts, is there a list of amendment offered to this sham and what they say/do?

[truthkeeper]

I wish. I know Menendez started the day off by saying they would be debating TWO amendments, so we know another one will be offered up later today.

[Kimberly GG]

And I am sad to say that I have 3, young adult sons who think their mom is off her rocker, that this whole immigration thing is “no big deal”. Nothing I say convinces them otherwise...they’ve completely tuned me out.

FYI...for those who didn’t see the thread...Bush presser coming up on Fox regarding Iraq and Immigration Bill.

[Spruce]

Norm Coleman(R - MN)

COLEMAN INTRODUCES AMENDMENT TO CLOSE SANCTUARY LOOPHOLE AND ALLOW FEDERAL-LOCAL COMMUNICATION


...Senator Coleman’s legislation will not require local law enforcement to use their own resources to enforce federal immigration laws. Moreover, it does not require local law enforcement to conduct immigration raids or act as federal agents. Senator Coleman’s bill will simply give law enforcement officers the ability to inquiry about a person’s immigration status during their routine investigations, and in turn report their findings to the appropriate Federal authorities though already-established channels, as they are currently required to do by law. ...

[truthkeeper]

Thank you, Spruce. It appears the original headline is okay.

Off to the Rose Garden thread now...

[VU4G10]

I smell alcohol??

[Prokopton]

What a waste of time. Sanctuary policies are already illegal, just ask Rudy who was on the losing end of those court decisions. What does it possibly matter if cities have sanctuary policies when this bill will make the entire United States a sanctuary for illegal invaders.

[K-oneTexas]

Yesterday, I believe, Cornyn introduced a bill/amendment to bar felons. I think Grassley also introduced a bill/amendment yesterday. I also thought I read somewhere that Kyl (I think) and Sessions offered amendments also, but unsure.

I do remember last year (2006) that Cornyn-Kyl introduced an Immigration Bill to counter the McCain-Kennedy Immigration (Fiasco) Bill. They may come back.

[geezerwheezer]

Done been to both of their offices and spoke with the worker bees there and told them in no uncertain terms what I thought of this “Great American Give Away Scam”. They were quite upset too.

[K-oneTexas]

Amendments to the The “Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act of 2007”.

Cornyn - bar felons
Coleman/Bond - end Sanctuary cities




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Talk about changes needed to be made to the bill:

Kerry - more rights for detainees
Kennedy - Liquor store 'gangs'

[truthkeeper]

Thank you for that.

[Vision]

Contact your representative.

[c-b 1]

It’s sad your sons aren’t paying attention, don’t give up on them, keep trying to educate them.

[K-oneTexas]

Found this at http://www.bluelatinos.org/blog/1. A little more infor than my initial attempt.

The following amendments are pending:

- Kennedy-Specter amendment in the nature of a substitute. (#1150)

- Grassley amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to clarify that the revocation of an alien’s visa or other documentation is not subject to judicial review. (#1166)

- Cornyn amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to establish a permanent bar for gang members, terrorists, and other criminals. (#1184)

- Coleman-Bond amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to amend the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 to facilitate information sharing between Federal and local law enforcement officials related to an individual’s immigration status. (#1158)

- Akaka amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to exempt children of certain Filipino World War II veterans from the numerical limitations on immigrant visas. (#1186)

- Bingaman amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to reduce to 200,000 the number of certain non-immigrants permitted to be admitted during a fiscal year (#1169), agreed to by a roll call vote of 74-24.

- Feinstein-Martinez amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to provide for the protection of unaccompanied alien children, and for other purposes (#1146), agreed to by voice vote.

- Gregg amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to ensure control of our Nation's borders and strengthen enforcement of our immigration laws (#1172), agreed to by voice vote.

- Graham amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to provide for minimum sentences for aliens who renter the United States after removal (#1173), agreed to by unanimous consent.

- Leahy amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to clarify rules applicable to aliens employed as dairy workers (#1165, as modified), agreed to by unanimous consent.

- Hutchinson amendment to the Kennedy-Specter substitute #1150, to provide local officials and the Secretary of Homeland Security greater involvement in decisions regarding the location of border fencing (# 1168), agreed to by unanimous consent.