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To: Non-Sequitur
“So war it was after all? And the South started it? Well you can’t very well complain when things don’t turn out quite like you had expected, can you?”

Lincoln maintained a fort within the territory of South Carolina, a State that considered itself seceded and no longer part of the United States, thus this was a foreign military facility. That would normally be considered justified.

“The government. “

False.

“Or if you want to get right down to it the people of the United States. That would be all the people, North as well as South.”

The people of South Carolina took back only the property they had originally ceded the Federal government.

I know your agenda here: “South bad guys, North shining knights in armor”, but that isn’t true. Neither side was the “good guys”. Lincoln fought to preserve what was supposed to be a freely entered into Federation at gun point. That’s exactly what that fort was - a loaded gun pointing at a major economic center of the nascent Confederacy.

Perhaps if he HAD withdrawn, an accommodation could have been reached, but frankly, both sides were spoiling for a fight.

574 posted on 05/24/2007 5:27:04 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: FredHunter08
Lincoln maintained a fort within the territory of South Carolina, a State that considered itself seceded and no longer part of the United States, thus this was a foreign military facility. That would normally be considered justified

So would Castro be justified in bombarding Guantanamo Bay into surrender? What should the U.S. do if he did?

The people of South Carolina took back only the property they had originally ceded the Federal government.

What legal right did they have to do so?

Perhaps if he HAD withdrawn, an accommodation could have been reached, but frankly, both sides were spoiling for a fight.

Having surrendered to Southern demands what accommodation was necessary? The South would have seized what they wanted. What else was there?

585 posted on 05/24/2007 6:17:55 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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