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To: carton253
If NS is correct that no one can know what Lincoln was thinking and certainly not his friends, cabinet, and secretaries.... then how does NS know so emphatically Lincoln's motives. But that's another matter.

No, it's a current matter. You've demanded a yes or no answer, did Lincoln know his actions would provoke the war or not? When I tried to answer by saying I didn't know for sure but what I believed was...you accused me of tap-dancing around the issue. Now you accuse me of emphatically knowing? Please. Apparently I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't.

Can an objective historian draw an accurate picture of what Lincoln knew and did not know.

And what objective historian has done that? David Donald has written the most definitive biography of Lincoln in the recent years and he couldn't state definitively. McPherson and Goodwin couldn't say for sure. Which objective historian has? You?

1,402 posted on 06/02/2007 5:38:23 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
As I have said... I have written my last word on the issue.

In the future, I will avoid your posts. Now, you can post all you want to me, about me, about what I write and what I say, but I will not answer. I will let my argument stand as it is... and those reading it can decide what was said between us and what was not.

You are a monumental waste of time and this is the last minute I will waste on you.

1,403 posted on 06/02/2007 7:01:40 AM PDT by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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