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#####In other words, the Confederates.....can get away with any kind of seizure of power and property, not like them Mexicans#####

I have no idea how you came up with that interpretation of my post given that I was essentially saying that if La Raza comes to dominate things in California, we may as well let them secede.

My reasons for occasionally posting in these Confederacy threads isn’t to re-fight the Civil War. It’s over and done with. Nor is it to assign blame to any particular party involved in that unfortunate conflict. That’s why I never participate in the debates over whom to blame for Ft. Sumter or anything else. I respect both sides in the conflict. I honor both armies. I regret the loss of life on both sides.

My reasons for joining these debates are:

A) To defend the right of Southerners to respect their Confederate ancestors, and to honor the emblems their ancestors fought under.

B) To note that the Politically Correct assault on the Rebel Flag and other Confederate symbols is just the opening round in a larger war to eradicate America itself.

Political Correctness is a cancer eating away at the heart of our civilization. The willingness of so many conservatives to tuck their tails between their legs and flee any time the left plays the race card is disheartening.

Enoch Powell once said that true statesmanship involves taking the sometimes hard steps necessary to prevent “preventable evils” from occurring. You brought up the issue of what might happen if La Raza were to take power in California. Well, La Raza might indeed take power there, and that’s an evil that could have been prevented at one time. It was back in 1965 that Teddy Kennedy sponsored a bill that was clearly designed to change the demographics of our nation and to replace our traditional melting pot with a “multi-cultural” society. Southern Democrats lined up against the bill. Democrats outside the South lined up in favor of it. The Republicans were actually in a position to determne the bill’s fate. They knew it was a horrendous piece of legislation, but everywhere they turned they saw liberal elites wagging their fingers at them, warning them that they’d be seen as “racist” if they voted against the bill. So, most of them turned coward and voted for the bill, enabling it to pass. In the decades since, most Republicans have joined with the Democratic left in refusing to protect our borders. It might be “racist”, after all, to do that.

The result? A massive leftist Democrat stronghold in the formerly GOP-leaning state of California. So for being Politically Correct, the GOP has paid a huge electoral price. Have they learned from this huge mistake? Nah! Republican senators even go to La Raza meetings, where they denounce opponents of their open borders policy as bigots and brag that they’ll shut them down during debate.

You asked (in the post to which I am responding) whether the Founding Fathers were slave owners or men who opposed slavery and hoped it would one day be abolished. The founders held a variety of positions on slavery, which is why there was a compromise in the Constitution on the issue. Many of them were indeed slave owners. But I don’t hate them for it, or desire to see their memory trashed. I (hopefully) have enough political savvy to see the storm clouds gathering that will eventually rain hatred down on our Founding Fathers. For the very arguments used against the Confederacy and the Battle Flag will in the not too distant future be used against the founders. That’s an evil that we can prevent, but not if we’re falling over each other to see who can score brownie points with the left by being the first to trash the Rebel Flag and the Confederate ancestors of many Americans. When a “civil rights activist” in 2016 wants every reference to George Washington removed from civil society, on the grounds that he was a slave owner, you wanna try explaining to him that Washington was a “good man” who just happened to own slaves, not a “wicked man” like those Confederates? He’ll laugh in your face. And in the end, he’ll win because few conservatives have the nerve to fight this PC nonsense.

Heck, they had to change the name of the anniversary of Jamestown to a “commemoration”, rather than a “celebration”, on the grounds that the arrival of whites in Virginia was nothing to celebrate. That was the 400th anniversary of Jamestown. Any predictions on what the 450th will be like, given the aggressiveness with which the left is trashing our history, and the weakness shown by all but a few conservatives in defending it?

You asked if I think the South was any more devoted than the North to the Declaration of Independence in 1950 or 1960. Probably not, but that was before Political Correctness. PC has infected the North far more than the South. We elect some clowns on occasion down here, but for heaven’s sake look at the senators the North sends to Washington. Look at who they vote for in presidential elections. No, support for foreign wars isn’t all there is to being an American, but the South’s wartime support does show that it isn’t the disloyal backwoods filled with racist traitors that elite liberals claim we are.

I can understand people on either side of this debate getting heated over the Civil War and its causes. What I can’t understand is why it’s so upsetting to certain alleged conservatives that we occasionally slap a Rebel Flag sticker on a car bumper or bring a Rebel Flag to a NASCAR race. Why do you find it necessary to join with the vilest elements of the left to denounce this innocent symbol of regional and ancestral pride? Why are you so blind that you can’t see that this will eventually set precedents which will then be used against our Founding Fathers, our Bill of Rights, and against the American Flag?

I thank you for your willingness to debate. I’m departing for the weekend. You can have the last word if you wish. I’ve said my piece! :-)

Have a great weekend!


1,385 posted on 06/01/2007 3:48:00 PM PDT by puroresu
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To: puroresu

That post was great! Thank you.


1,390 posted on 06/01/2007 6:02:42 PM PDT by beckysueb
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