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What Does It Mean "The South Shall Rise Again":
The Wichita (KS) Eagle ^ | 23 May 2007 | Mark McCormick

Posted on 05/24/2007 6:03:30 AM PDT by Rebeleye

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To: Non-Sequitur
But then again hypocrisy is a very Southron trait.

(Yawn)

By the way, Nonsensical, have you found out how the 'Law of Nations' thingy fell into the Constitution yet?

941 posted on 05/27/2007 8:13:17 PM PDT by MamaTexan (Government cannot make a law contrary to the law that made the government)
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To: MamaTexan

So, nothing but documentation counts in your view of history? Personal diaries, speeches, newspaper accounts, letters, memoirs, etc. are all discounted?


942 posted on 05/27/2007 8:15:53 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

oops, should read “legal documentation.”


943 posted on 05/27/2007 8:16:27 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell
So, nothing but documentation counts in your view of history? Personal diaries, speeches, newspaper accounts, letters, memoirs, etc. are all discounted?

In my view of history, no. But history and legal fact are two very different animals.

The former is based on perception, while the latter is based in law.

"When all government, in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the Center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated."
– Thomas Jefferson

944 posted on 05/27/2007 8:36:49 PM PDT by MamaTexan (Government cannot make a law contrary to the law that made the government)
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To: MamaTexan

That’s an interesting view of the world. Not the one I would adopt, but interesting.


945 posted on 05/27/2007 8:48:18 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You do post like a true thinker from the North.


946 posted on 05/28/2007 12:24:34 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Up until the point you [Abe Lincoln, as per his personal secretary] started a war to further your [his] aims. Then opinions changed.

Just as Abe intended they should.

947 posted on 05/28/2007 2:53:00 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: BnBlFlag
Thenk kyew, suh.
948 posted on 05/28/2007 2:55:09 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: x
Genetic? You mean you are a racist?

LOL -- the hopeful note in your tone is actually funny. Oh, to get LG banned as an anti-WASP racist, LOL! Welladay!

Whatever is in the water in easternmost England made those folks a bunch of sourpuss pushypants, and they brought it with them to the New World, to the detriment and manifest injury of the New World.

949 posted on 05/28/2007 3:10:04 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: x
Federalism and the United States are good enough for me. I don't know why you find them so lacking.

You've come late to the altar of federalism. We haven't practiced it since 1861.

The Fourteenth Amendment that you were just purring about to that other poster, remember? Or do you need me to repost your encomiums for you? I shouldn't think you need the help, though; you aren't as conveniently and obdurately forgetful as some of your allies.

950 posted on 05/28/2007 3:17:36 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Non-Sequitur
Good post... but please copy it to Non-Sequitur. I already know this stuff (I’m not being “snippy”, honest — he just needs to read it more than I do).

Posting things to N-S will do you no good. He just ignores them and posts his theses to newbies de novo.

You need to ping N-S when you call him out; he's still just this side of dispensing with the courtesy pings.

951 posted on 05/28/2007 3:20:17 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Rebeleye

If the South rises again, I’m cashing in my bonds. I’ve got a couple of confederate states bonds that I picked up years ago at a Civil War show. They look purty hangin’ on the wall, but they’re worth millions in the event.


952 posted on 05/28/2007 3:29:38 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Non-Sequitur; MamaTexan; durasell
Mama condemns Lincoln for his alleged Constitutional infractions but ignores the actions of Davis.

Mark Neely wrote two books to "prove" that thesis, but omitted consideration from the fact that the Confederacy was set upon in its cradle and was fighting for its life against a much more powerful adversary from birth. Exigency and extremity lay much more heavily upon the Confederate cause than on the Union one; in many parts of the North, the casualty lists were the only sign of warfare -- other than the great prosperity attendant on Lincoln's deficit spending and spread around through contracts, payrolls, and the recruitment-bounty program.

[Truth in advocacy: two of my own family members, great-great-uncles on my father's maternal side, accepted the bounties to stand in for draftees -- then disappeared and evaded the military police. They were serious drunkards and wouldn't have been much use to the Indiana regiments campaigning with Rosecrans; the limits of their usefulness were pretty much reached when they occasionally took the poet James Whitcomb Riley home in a wheelbarrow from one of their hotel bar drinking sessions.]

953 posted on 05/28/2007 3:34:01 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: durasell
The Civil War was an ugly piece of business and neither side can claim clean hands. The only question to ask is: was it worth it? I believe it was worth it.

So do I.

954 posted on 05/28/2007 5:35:41 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: MamaTexan
By the way, Nonsensical, have you found out how the 'Law of Nations' thingy fell into the Constitution yet?

At the risk of putting you completely to sleep, no.

And at the risk of putting me completely to sleep, how about enlightening us?

955 posted on 05/28/2007 5:37:46 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Cvengr
You do post like a true thinker from the North.

And based on their general lack of accuracy, you post like a true son of the South.

956 posted on 05/28/2007 5:39:03 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Just as Abe intended they should.

I was wondering when you were going to haul out the "We wuz so stoopid we done fell into Linkum's trap" defense.

957 posted on 05/28/2007 5:40:18 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Mark Neely wrote two books to "prove" that thesis, but omitted consideration from the fact that the Confederacy was set upon in its cradle and was fighting for its life against a much more powerful adversary from birth.

Now it's the "Screw the constitution, we've got a war to fight" defense.

And Neely did a very good job of demonstrating the excesses that occured under Lincoln and the even worse ones that occured under Davis. But once again we see the Southron hypocisy at it's best. Tyranny under Lincoln? Baaaad! Eeeeevil! Tyranny under Davis? Hey, what's the big deal?

958 posted on 05/28/2007 5:45:47 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Very small quibble:

The Puerto Rican flag is an American flag.

As is that of Michigan, or Maryland.

Other than that, I’m right there with you.

The Confederate Flag (battle or otherwise) is, to this northerner, also an American flag.


959 posted on 05/28/2007 6:33:55 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Any means, fair or foul, to defeat the islamic filth.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
how about enlightening us?

Why? Many posters here have already tried to 'enlighten' you to no avail.

Do your own homework. I'll even be nice and get you started:

James Wilson, Of the Law of Nations, Lectures on Law

960 posted on 05/28/2007 7:23:05 AM PDT by MamaTexan (Government cannot make a law contrary to the law that made the government)
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