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Fred Thompson: No Restrictionist Hero
Latest Politics, New York Sun ^ | 18MAY07 | Ryan Sager

Posted on 05/24/2007 12:02:11 AM PDT by familyop

Mitt Romney is rightly being hit for his flip-flop on immigration. However, Fred Thompson's "tough" stance isn't exactly enough to make him the restrictionists' hero, either.

As recently as 2006, Mr. Thompson clearly stated that some sort of legalization — or "amnesty" — would be necessary. He seems to be for a virtual border fence (like President Bush) instead of a brick-and-mortar one. And he doesn't want tough sanctions for employers.

This all puts Mr. Thompson roughly in line with Rudy Giuliani.

On a path to citizenship: "[B]ecause we allowed ourselves to wait until we woke up one day and found 12 million illegals here, there's no easy solution. And I think that you have to realize that you're either going to drive 12 million people underground permanently, which is not a good solution. You're going to get them all together and get them out of the country, which is not going to happen. Or you're going to have to, in some way, work out a deal where they can have some aspirations of citizenship, but not make it so easy that it's unfair to the people waiting in line and abiding by the law." (Fox News' "Hannity & Colmes," 4/3/06)

On the problems with cracking down on employers: "We haven't enforced the law, in terms of employers. … For 20 years, we've not enforced the law, and that's a part of the problem. You can't enforce it all on the backs of the employers. People falsify information that they give employers and all that. That's not a solution to the problem." (Fox News' "Hannity & Colmes," 4/3/06)

On his skepticism of a brick-and-mortar border fence: FOX's ALAN COLMES: "You don't put up a fence, either, do you? Is that bad neighbor policy, put a fence up?" THOMPSON: "If it would work. I mean, I don't know – that's a technical problem. In this day and age, I would not think you would have to use bricks and mortar to get that job done. But we ought to do everything that we can to get it done to the extent that we can and then, as I say, I think people would be willing to take a look at the rest of the problem, what we do with the problem that we created." (Fox News' "Hannity & Colmes," 4/3/06)

On enforcement first: "We woke up one day after years of neglect and apparently discovered that we have somewhere between 12 million and 20 million illegal aliens in this country. So it became an impossible situation to deal with. I mean, there's really no good solution. So what do you do? You have to start over. Well, I'm concerned about the next 12 million or 20 million. So that's why enforcement, and enforcement at the border, has to be primary." (Fox's "Fox News Sunday," 3/11/07)

On not rounding up illegal immigrants: "You know, if you have the right kind of policies, and you're not encouraging people to come here and encouraging them to stay once they're here, they'll go back, many of them, of their own volition, instead of having to, you know, load up moving vans and rounding people up. That's not going to happen." (Fox's "Fox News Sunday," 3/11/07)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; fred; fredthompson; herecomesthehitmen; illegal; immigration; putonignore; rfr; runfredrun; ryansager; theyrecominferfred; thompson
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1 posted on 05/24/2007 12:02:13 AM PDT by familyop
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...found a link to it from the following.

Fred Thompson NOT Good on Illegal Immigration Issue
(Power Line News)
http://www.plnewsforum.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/18610/


2 posted on 05/24/2007 12:03:25 AM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

Ryan Sager of the New York Sun goes after everyone in a negative way except Rudy.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


3 posted on 05/24/2007 12:09:35 AM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: familyop

“Restrictionist” is a new one on me.


4 posted on 05/24/2007 12:10:57 AM PDT by JennysCool ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -Mencken)
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5 posted on 05/24/2007 12:11:43 AM PDT by Politicalmom ("ARREST ILLEGALS AND SEND THEM BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM" Fred Thompson)
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To: familyop

Where did this word “restrictionist” come from? And what does it mean, exactly? Sheesh. Just when I think I finally have “neo-con” figured out, along comes another buzzword.


6 posted on 05/24/2007 12:12:26 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Are you saying that his quotations of Thompson are false? Do you know that Thompson’s voting record on McCain-Feingold, immigration and trade for cheap labor are going to be known by most voters before long? It will have to be confronted sooner or later. He (recent comments in interviews contradictory to his record) differs quite a bit on those issues from Duncan Hunter.


7 posted on 05/24/2007 12:14:49 AM PDT by familyop
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Oh, NO. He wants to enforce the border and favors attrition....wait, that's what I want, too.

And of course, they ALWAYS leave out this quote from the Mike Wallace interview: "If we can make it nearly impossible for an invader to get a job and give the border patrol the authority and resources to arrest illegals and send them back where they came from, more than half the battle will have been won."

8 posted on 05/24/2007 12:17:22 AM PDT by Politicalmom ("ARREST ILLEGALS AND SEND THEM BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM" Fred Thompson)
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To: familyop

Bookmarked.


9 posted on 05/24/2007 12:17:34 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Lancey Howard

Darn, I guess I am just a Restrictionist for being against crime and violence! LOL


10 posted on 05/24/2007 12:20:34 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: familyop
It's almost to the point where the main question, that no one asks is:

Will you honor the will of the people.

11 posted on 05/24/2007 12:22:13 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: familyop

So we’re all supposed to be mad at Fred now? Wow, I didn’t know he had even declared yet. I was just watching him chewing his cud on “Law and Order” the other night.


12 posted on 05/24/2007 12:22:38 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Lancey Howard
"Where did this word 'restrictionist' come from? And what does it mean, exactly? Sheesh. Just when I think I finally have 'neo-con' figured out, along comes another buzzword."

I'm a neo-con. A neo-con is anyone who supports our ally in the Middle East.

Israel Should Give Up ‘Not One Inch’ of Land, GOP Presidential Candidate Says (Duncan Hunter)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1837301/posts

Rep. Duncan Hunter: 'I Will Never Abandon Israel'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1838134/posts

Most Americans Support Right of Jews to Live and Build in Judea-Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/927783/posts
June 10, 2003
"By a margin of nearly five to one, Americans oppose the Bush administration's demand to halt all further Jewish construction in Judea-Samaria (the West Bank) and Gaza . . . The poll, carried out by John McLaughlin & Associates, surveyed a scientific sample of 1,000 American adults on May 21, 2003.


13 posted on 05/24/2007 12:24:27 AM PDT by familyop (Noachide Chassid, cbt. engr. (cbt.--has-been))
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PING!


14 posted on 05/24/2007 12:24:54 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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To: ozzymandus

I’m supporting Duncan Hunter but I agree with Mr. Thompson. If we stop why they come, many will go home on their own. He needs to take a look at Congress before going after business though.


15 posted on 05/24/2007 12:27:09 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: familyop

I noticed Ryan Sager did hit pieces on Mitt Romney and other candidates. Now Thompson. Maybe its true.
What I know to be untrue is Sager’s trying to position Rudy as anything but open border type.


16 posted on 05/24/2007 12:30:18 AM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: Politicalmom

I’d like to hear Thompson’s approach to immigration. I’m a Romney supporter, but I could get behind Thompson IF I see him speaking of a logical approach to immigration.

So far, I only like Romney and Hunter on the issue, and of those two, only Romney is electable.

This is the deciding issue for me in this election. I do not want my country turning into a socialist bario. I’ve already seen what the waves of Mexican immigrants have done to a land, and it isn’t pretty.


17 posted on 05/24/2007 12:30:26 AM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: Lancey Howard

Invented word by the open borders lobby against those who dont want amnesty.


18 posted on 05/24/2007 12:31:18 AM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: CheyennePress

“I’d like to hear Thompson’s approach to immigration. I’m a Romney supporter, but I could get behind Thompson IF I see him speaking of a logical approach to immigration.

So far, I only like Romney and Hunter on the issue, and of those two, only Romney is electable.

This is the deciding issue for me in this election. I do not want my country turning into a socialist bario. I’ve already seen what the waves of Mexican immigrants have done to a land, and it isn’t pretty.

Dittos on this.


19 posted on 05/24/2007 12:31:46 AM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: Politicalmom

I’m in favor of legal immigration, too, for US citizens who marry foreigners and for English-speaking foreigners (even Indians). ...not for gigantic hordes of third-world slaves whose allegiances are questionable and whose languages and social values are costly for us.

Employers seduced nearly all wives into full time labor while their kids are being reared by bureaucrats. It appears that they’re not satisfied with that now and want to replace the working mothers with mobs of anti-American third-worlders.


20 posted on 05/24/2007 12:33:26 AM PDT by familyop (Noachide Chassid, cbt. engr. (cbt.--has-been))
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