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To: JeanS

Destroying our culture, filling our prisons, dividing us, not wanting to be part of the melting pot, claiming we stole this land, cutting in line ahead of those who are following the law, undercutting wages, overcrowding and wrecking our schools, causing more pollution, getting in our faces by marching in the streets with their Mexican flags, and making it impossible to drive on our freeways. Yep, I’d say they are a net negative.


2 posted on 05/23/2007 11:48:02 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
If these people were such an economic positive as some claim, Mexico would be healthy economically - which it is not.

Just take a typically illegal family with three kids in public school. Here in California the cost per kid per year is about $10,000. That’s $30,000 a year on the taxpayer. The illegal parents don’t even begin to pay that bill in taxes. The Americans that hire these people are doing it at the expense of everyone else. That should be a crime in itself. They reap the benefit of lower cost labor while everyone else pays for their health care, criminal justice system, education, etc...

Go after those who purposely hire them with a vengeance.

9 posted on 05/24/2007 12:37:45 AM PDT by DB
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To: doug from upland
Destroying our culture, filling our prisons, dividing us, not wanting to be part of the melting pot, claiming we stole this land, cutting in line ahead of those who are following the law, undercutting wages, overcrowding and wrecking our schools, causing more pollution, getting in our faces by marching in the streets with their Mexican flags, and making it impossible to drive on our freeways. Yep, I’d say they are a net negative.

The top 10% Of Mexico and Central American nations is a white Spanish elite. They lord over populations of indigenous Indians and semi indigenous peoples. This lower class 90% is what the elites are bulldozing into the United States. The stupid gringos accept this. The Euro-Spanish elites are laughing themselves silly

At present rates and with this massive amnesty, half of Mexico will live here soon. Half of Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and El Salvador

10 posted on 05/24/2007 12:47:31 AM PDT by dennisw ("Libertarianism is applied autism" - Steve Sailer)
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To: doug from upland

Well put Doug.

Regards


12 posted on 05/24/2007 1:06:49 AM PDT by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment..)
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To: doug from upland
Yep, I’d say they are a net negative.

That's not the point - the problem with organizations like Heritage & sites like FR is that members are enamored with facts and tend to be blinded by logic.

But that's not what this movement and debate is about. No, if we listen, we can hear exactly what our elected representatives are telling us: It's all about votes.

This is all about pure political power; who will control policy & the purse strings. Using facts & logic to debate these points merely reinforces their poor opinion of us since it conclusively proves to them that WE DON'T GET IT.

14 posted on 05/24/2007 2:42:06 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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